I know it’s probably using < 1000x compute of the real Sora, but “pretty good” is stretching it
Depends on your frame of reference. Compared to anything else I've seen generated on a consumer grade GPU, I'd say these are are indeed pretty good. Here's their example gallery: https://hpcaitech.github.io/Open-Sora/ Compared to the outputs from other models run on consumer grade GPUs, I'd say those are very good.
Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs
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Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can argue divine right of kings or white supremacy from political necessity. Some kind of systems to allocate scarce resources is needed. This doesn't have to be property. Access to e.g. the moon and earth's orbits and international waters and polar regions have systems of allocation, but they are not property.
> Some kind of systems to allocate scarce resources is needed. This doesn't have to be property. I should not be coerced to give output of my labor (whether physical or mental) to others based on some burocrat’s allocation system or my neighbor’s wishes. That would be immoral.
I should not be coerced not to enter a piece of land just because somebody made a contract with somebody who killed or evicted by force the people (and other animals) who previously inhabited the land. That would be immoral, right?
Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Depends on your frame of reference. Compared to anything else I've seen generated on a consumer grade GPU, I'd say these are are indeed pretty good. Here's their example gallery: https://hpcaitech.github.io/Open-Sora/ Compared to the outputs from other models run on consumer grade GPUs, I'd say those are very good.
What's the useful frame of reference? Looking better than other things that are also bad is sort interesting in that it represents progress in some direction, but it isn't very interesting to people outside of the topic.
Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which is a positive turn of events. Intellectual property as a concept needs to go.
No. AI firms are a good example of precisely why copyright was put in place. Right now, AI is taking people's original works and rehashing them in a way that directly competes with the original work . Some AI firms (e.g. perplexity) just have their LLMs paraphrase the work lightly. This is a problem because it drives original work out of business. Even setting aside matters of originality, artistic value, and AI bein…
> Right now, AI is taking people's original works and rehashing them in a way that directly competes with the original work.
Good. Taking people's original works and rehashing them in direct competition fosters, not harms, cultural flourishing.
Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just run all key frames through stable diffusion and it should be quite good.
I don't think there's such a thing as key frames here, just frames. And if you run SD through every frame, the output will be janky because SD doesn't know about temporal coherence.
Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
IP is a huge drag on the progress of mankind. Ideally there would other ways than economical to facilitate production of intellectual goods. Ownership economies are exceptionally bad in non-scarce resources. There are some alternative and less destructive ways to handle the economy already in place. Academic institutions generally don't claim or enforce IP (paywalls are more a corporate than academic thing). Many lib…
Is IP on names also a huge drag? Would it be beneficial to the mankind if I—or anyone—were able to just make their own Linux or Nginx, with no relation to the group that originally made it? Arguably "first come, first serve" policy on names per domain is a good one and serves to reduce confusion.
Yes, they should lose the "property" if they do so, but in practice they lose it decades too late if even then.
Also trademarks being sellable means that at any moment the product with a trademark can have nothing to do with the original holder, partly defeating the rationale.
Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you want to make an adjective out of an English noun, just add a 'y' directly to the end of it, e.g. 'morphy'. The hyphen is erroneous here: 'morph-y' would be pronounced like 'morph why', and has the structure of a compound modifier without making any sense as one.
That doesn't always work in a way that's clear, though. If I said a microcontroller felt pretty army, that's different to saying it feels arm-y, since army is already a word. I wasn't trying to say that it was like chess player Paul Morphy, I was trying to indicate it was an adjective derived from "morph". Language is meant to convey meaning, and you understood the meaning I was trying to convey, so what's the issue?
I'm assuming that you don't mean that the microcontroller reminds you of an upper body appendage, and are instead referring to a well-known instruction set architecture. If that's the case, I'd recommend 'ARMy'. But you're correct about the ambiguity where the word form you want to use collides with another pre-existing word. In that situation, you'll naturally need a different solution.
> Language is meant to convey meaning, and you understood the meaning I was trying to convey, so what's the issue?
That's precisely it. Language is meant to convey meaning: and the more complex and abstract the meaning we mean to convey, the more precise we need to be in our use of language. Deviating too much from well-established conventions makes ambiguity or miscommunication more likely. Conversely, to your point, blindly adhering to conventions where that would increase ambiguity also impedes communication.
In this case, the erroneous hyphen didn't completely erase your intended meeting, but it did make the sentence slower to parse.
Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs
#108Assume "pretty good" here means "pretty good relative to Sora", because even Sora can't claim to be "pretty good" yet.
Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs
#109I was forwarded a message just moments ago by my mother, a 5 second Facebook video, clearly AI generated - and I suspect Open Sora. More AI slop for everyone.
At some point we should stop treating our mothers as infants. It doesnt matter that they didn't grow up with the internet, they should adapt , despite their age. It has happened before and will happen again. (it makes me mad that similar arguments are often brought when discussing mobile phones' walled garden policies)
well, they kinda do, but here's the thing
when you're old, all the tech that's out will be alien to you
I'm not even middle aged, I'm a tech enthusiast, and nonetheless it is happening to me already. new UI and new tools all happening too fast to keep up
we should be trying to do something about this for ourselves, not just for our mothers
Re: Open-Sora does pretty good video generation on consumer GPUs
#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
Take down their GIT Repository with perfectly valid DMCA Notice, I guess?
Does DMCA cover trademarks? I think it might only be for copyright.
Though actually I imagine GH would just close the repo before it comes to that, because it looks like a pretty clear case.
I guess it's also possible OpenAI doesn't care about this.