Ask HN: Widespread Apathy?

Post by dogman144 » Mon, Jun 17, 2024, 4:06 PM UTC

floating-io wrote: post #75

dogman144 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is happening already, the extent to which it fully occurs is the potential part. The vendors are out there and shopping. Or, OAI and co are totally blowing smoke. Latter is possible for sure, but I don’t think anyone really thinks the tech hasn’t arrived, or isn’t on edge enough to give it the serious benefit of the doubt. Things just have to develop naturally from Netflix in 2013 (laggy and small library) to Netf…

People said similar things about the cloud: shrink your IT staff! I don't think that dream quite materialized. I doubt it will with AI either; they will just be supervising the AI, or spending time on more important things that the AI frees them up for. That's my "prediction", anyway...

Where this equivalency fails Imo is cloud’s expansion into employment market tasks was just providing a wrapper of a nice UI and automation suite on server admin tasks. That ability to scale quickly probably creates products that expanded into other labor markets more faster than if racking and stacking was required by every startup. But, that expansion probably would occur anyway, just slower.

What labor tasks AI providers a nice automation and UI wrapper on is… a much much larger scope than what cloud could do.

Post by dogman144 » Mon, Jun 17, 2024, 4:37 PM UTC

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #62

throwaway9143 wrote: post #12

People have gotten the message that capitalism is a cancer that will exploit workers of every bit of value for a pittance. People are fighting back by quiet quitting and doing the absolute bare minimum to collect a paycheck. There's literally no point in working hard for your higher ups to make bank off of you while you get an "attaboy." They're going to learn the hard way now.

> People have gotten the message The generation of young people in the 1960s thought this. Then the generation of young people in the 1970s thought this. Then the generation of young people in the 1980s thought this, and so on. I'll be 50 this year, I've gotten to see it twice myself. I've started reading about it historically (Days of Rage by Burrough is informative and neutral tone). Capitalism isn't a cancer. It's…

Good take I think. The root of the Grand USA bargain in my view is just what you said - it gives you social space and a civil society framework to try and achieve your own outcomes via capitalism.

Everyone has a different starting hand on how easy this is to do. In my experience, some starting points are crushingly unfair.

However, there is nothing stopping me from trying with the hand I have. The terrain to pick is pretty large as well. I can do these even if my parents aren’t landed nobility or the right caste. The knowledge needed is freely provided somewhere. The professional networks needed can be built out freely. I can move anywhere, and pick any market within at least the US’s domain - every state, every trading partner, and now via the internet every regulated western-ized market. The ways I fail in an unrecoverable way are also somewhat owned by me - don’t bet the farm, don’t take on financial obligations greater than what would lock me out of free choice due to realities of paying a mortgage and so on, if you want kids at 30 start thinking about how to set it up around 20.

These system rules aren’t understood by everyone, but imo doesn’t mean it doesn’t work more or less as designed. And to your last point, people who check into this path tend to check out of the old path and the old path’s complaints.

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