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Re: Ask HN: Are you still using your Vision Pro?

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No, I returned it. Kinda regretted it, so I picked up a Meta Quest 3 to scratch the VR itch. I use it for watching youtube while I do dishes and laundry. Sometimes I play golf for relaxation or beat saber. I really wish there was an easy way to put the older 3d blu-ray movies on the device to watch movies, because immersive movies are really the next level for entertainment.

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Re: Ask HN: Are you still using your Vision Pro?

#103
post #86

Yes, almost every day. I travel regularly and I love having a big, crisp, private display every where I am: Hotel, plane, train. Makes me so much more productive. Consuming content is great of course but the AVP has changed my content creation: I take way more panoramas and now spatial photos (Spatialify on iOS works well). I also bought an Insta X4 360 camera which, while a far cry from Apple's immersive content in…

That's interesting about the sculpture scanning. The notion of capturing 3D impressions of things you've seen, and taking them away with you.

Do you get any sense of the Glasshole Factor, in public, with this device? (that is : a general feeling of distrust from people who observe you operating in public with a high tech recording device).

Re: Ask HN: Are you still using your Vision Pro?

#104

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Truly a golden era for fast-forwarding through videos of dead-eyed men and women rutting on camera. (Thank you – I genuinely learned a lot from your reply.)

What a boner of a comment. We get it, George, you don't watch pornography. Well done on managing your personal brand I guess? FYI there's nothing inherently wrong about porn or sex work! It's great! A lot of people like it, you should try it sometime!

You seem legitimately offended that this guy has preferences and opinions? Why are you so concerned with what other people do in their free time?

Re: Ask HN: Are you still using your Vision Pro?

#105
post #30

I still use mine every couple of weeks for movies that my family doesn’t want to watch with me. I also use it as my hotel setup when I travel for work. It’s great having a full size monitor wherever I need. I’m excited for the coming improvements with vision os 2.0. I’m still not comfortable using it in public, though. It feels ostentatious, but I will try it the next time I fly with the family. Having people I trust…

> movies that my family doesn’t want to watch with me.

Movies you're watching for the plot, no doubt.

Re: Ask HN: Are you still using your Vision Pro?

#106

As an aside, and as someone who doesn't own a vision pro (non US pleb): While it is interesting to me if people find utility. I can't help but feel that the narrative on places outside of HN is a strong "no". But, that is to be expected, the form factor isn't convenient yet. When mobile phones weighed 2KG few people used them on a daily. When it's miniaturized into the form factor of glasses, we'll all be daily users…

Outside of HN, VR is a hard sell. Outside of VR games, it is an almost impossible sell, and Apple is irrelevant when it comes to gaming.

At $3500, in this economy, it's a no-go for all but the most die-hard of Apple fans.

Re: Ask HN: Are you still using your Vision Pro?

#107
post #29

Yes, mostly for the Mac display. Also when crankin’ my hog (just being honest)

>Also when crankin’ my hog (just being honest) Honestly that seems like the primary use case whenever the topic is mentioned. I'm sure there are cool innovative uses for them, but porn is always going to be at the forefront.

This reminds me of how in the WWDC keynote, the example used for the new hidden apps feature was an app involving hair styles. Yup, I'm sure that is exactly the kind of app people would want to be hiding on their phone...

Re: Ask HN: Are you still using your Vision Pro?

#108
post #69

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Hand tracking is limited to 30fps in VisionOS 1.0, but in 2.0 it runs at the same framerate as the display, so it should be vastly improved.

30fps is 33ms per frame. I'd expect that to be fine for most free-space gestures (for musical instruments you generally want Is the frame rate really the limiting factor here, or something algorithmic in the tracking (like smoothing out noise)?

Surprisingly, yes! 90hz would be considered the minimum here.

As a general statement, no, vision isn’t as time-sensitive as hearing, so the timing requirements aren’t as precise. But when it comes to head and hand tracking, the brain’s also doing predictive sensor fusion, and even “unnoticeably” small delays can be disorienting or nauseating. (Ocular fixation is the most sensitive, but hand-eye coordination is also pretty important to the brain!)

The important number in VR is “motion-to-photon” latency. Over 20ms starts to be noticeable to most people; 50ms starts to make most people uncomfortable. That’s the total budget for sensor fusion, simulation, rendering, and display, and that’s just for the bare-minimum experience that doesn’t make people immediately ill.

You can do a lot with prediction and late updates in screen space, which is what makes VR possible at all on current hardware— but it’s hard to make up for having sensor data delayed by possibly 150% of the total time budget :)

Re: Ask HN: Are you still using your Vision Pro?

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What a boner of a comment. We get it, George, you don't watch pornography. Well done on managing your personal brand I guess? FYI there's nothing inherently wrong about porn or sex work! It's great! A lot of people like it, you should try it sometime!

You seem legitimately offended that this guy has preferences and opinions? Why are you so concerned with what other people do in their free time?

> You seem legitimately offended that this guy has preferences and opinions

No, I am not offended that anyone has preferences or opinions. What I am responding to is this language:

> Neither a Vision Pro owner nor much of a hog cranker

> native applications designed to aid manipulating oneself

> dead-eyed men and women rutting on camera

...which is intended to indicate disdain towards people who produce or consume pornographic material. I think that this person is going out of their way to be an unkind contrarian regarding porn, and in my opinion that deserves a little light ridicule!

Re: Ask HN: Are you still using your Vision Pro?

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You seem legitimately offended that this guy has preferences and opinions? Why are you so concerned with what other people do in their free time?

> You seem legitimately offended that this guy has preferences and opinions No, I am not offended that anyone has preferences or opinions. What I am responding to is this language: > Neither a Vision Pro owner nor much of a hog cranker > native applications designed to aid manipulating oneself > dead-eyed men and women rutting on camera ...which is intended to indicate disdain towards people who produce or consume po…

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