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If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by coldtea »

aussieguy1234 wrote: post #37

Software engineer here trying to start a startup. The amount of business advice GPT-4 has given me is immeasurable. I'd say I'm getting 10x more non technical business advice in multiple areas than I'm getting with the technical stuff. Kind of like an AI CEO advising me on what to do next.

>Kind of like an AI CEO advising me on what to do next.

Or like someone who never was a CEO, but has absorbed all kinds of articles, listicles, and books with business advice (most of them written by hustle hacks, non-CEO content creators, or failed small-time enterpreneurs) and serves advice based on that...

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by idopmstuff »

boolit wrote: post #52
Jensson wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'd say I'm getting 10x more non technical business advice in multiple areas than I'm getting with the technical stuff. Probably in large part because you can't verify when its wrong since that isn't your area of expertise, so those advice looks better to you. You should assume your org will be the same quality as a program written by a non-technical person using an LLM if you do it that way.

This is a critical insight. Whenever I ask an LLM about a topic I’m knowledgeable about, I can detect that it spews a load of nonsense. Talking to people in other fields, e.g., history and literature, they say it’s the same for them. LLMs are only useful if you know the topic you’re asking questions about. Otherwise, they generate so much nonsense that you cannot verify, that trusting it becomes a liability.

> LLMs are only useful if you know the topic you’re asking questions about.

Not true, and you're missing a key point for the topic at hand. LLMs are useful if you know the topic OR if you have measurable outcomes. If you want to increase sales, and you ask an LLM how to increase sales, you will know if its ideas work if they result in increased sales.

Think of it like AlphaGo - it learned to play Go by playing with an AI despite having no knowledge of Go strategy, because it could determine what was effective based on outcomes.

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by idopmstuff »

anileated wrote: post #74
tossandthrow wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow This is extremely rude and downright uncomfortable to read on a forum where people are supposed to be curious. Who tf do you think you are?

“Let me just use a glorified autocomplete instead of learning a subject domain or craft” seems like the opposite of hacker spirit and curiosity.

HN has plenty of bad takes, and this is up there with the worst. OP is obviously learning from the LLM. What is with this knee-jerk reflex to complain about AI regardless of whether your complaint makes any sense?

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by coldtea »

tossandthrow wrote: post #83
anileated wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Let me just use a glorified autocomplete instead of learning a subject domain or craft” seems like the opposite of hacker spirit and curiosity.

I would love to understand this better. Why do you think it is anti-curiosity to use LLMs? The original commenter did not say they used it for producing content, so and auto complete is not really precise, is it? You could say that it is an advanced, stochastic knowledge-retrieval system. Does the workings of such merit your curiosity? Does the workings of compression algorithms merit your curiosity? Or are you merel…

>Why do you think it is anti-curiosity to use LLMs?

"Don't need to study and trial/error to learn about business, I can get business advice in a box".

It's Stack Overflow copy-pasting MkII.

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by mirsadm »

bee_rider wrote: post #54
123yawaworht456 wrote: post #10

the only jobs "AI" will take in the foreseeable future is the journos'. And That's a Good Thing - Here's Why.

A journalist’s job is to investigate something, then write it up. Just like a scientist really. If the AI lets either party partially automate the final step (and that’s all it is, automation, they are still your words in the sense that you are responsible for them), that might leave them with more effort for the more important former step, the actual job, the investigation. Opinion-piece writers are screwed though.

This is why LLMs are so good at it. They don't need to investigate anything they can just write about it.

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by alex_c »

As CEO / owner of a small business... god I hope so, where do I sign up!

The article lists a couple examples of “virtual” CEOs. Disappointing not to see any kind of critical thought or analysis on what that actually means in practice, beyond a pretty transparent PR gimmick to get headlines for those companies.

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by hxriv »

vessenes wrote: post #23

A fair number of r/antiwork type takes on this below. Since this is HackerNews, let's follow through the logic -- if the AI you're running is the CEO, who are you? You're the owner / shareholder / (board if you want to be). This wave of AI is like giving a superpower to people who can direct/imagine/realize what they want, describe it, and (for now) glue together the output of the AI. A lot of the work is ongoing thi…

Not to hijack the thread but I’m curious if you can lay out what is the core message of r/Antiwork? I can’t get my head around what the messages and goals are. (Do they have KPIs and OKRs? /semi-s)

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by tossandthrow »

coldtea wrote: post #104
tossandthrow wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would love to understand this better. Why do you think it is anti-curiosity to use LLMs? The original commenter did not say they used it for producing content, so and auto complete is not really precise, is it? You could say that it is an advanced, stochastic knowledge-retrieval system. Does the workings of such merit your curiosity? Does the workings of compression algorithms merit your curiosity? Or are you merel…

> Why do you think it is anti-curiosity to use LLMs? "Don't need to study and trial/error to learn about business, I can get business advice in a box". It's Stack Overflow copy-pasting MkII.

This reads like a comment from a person who has not tried to integrate LLMs into various workflows.

Have you tried making and LLM draft a study plan for you? Kickstarting learning of a new area?

Have you tried making an LLM correct your "homework" for your studies? When you try to learn a new language?

Curiosity is about not being categorical - "It's Stack Overflow copy-pasting MkII." is extremely categorical and thus, anti-curiosity.

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by TheNewsIsHere »

WWWMMMWWW wrote: post #4

There's also AI's dark secret coming out -> it's very expensive to run. But it's still WAY cheaper than upper management salaries, so, to employ classic MBA logic, they are the optimal staff to replace so as to maximize cost savings.

We’re already starting to see cracks in the foundations in some places in terms of GPU VM availability at hyperscalers. I know someone dealing with an open-ended Nvidia shortage at $MajorCloudVendor that doesn’t seem to have an anticipated end date.

You can easily spend at least as much on AI per month as on a C-level officer.

Re: If A.I. Can Do Your Job, Maybe It Can Also Replace Your CEO

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Post by coldtea »

tossandthrow wrote: post #108
coldtea wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why do you think it is anti-curiosity to use LLMs? "Don't need to study and trial/error to learn about business, I can get business advice in a box". It's Stack Overflow copy-pasting MkII.

This reads like a comment from a person who has not tried to integrate LLMs into various workflows. Have you tried making and LLM draft a study plan for you? Kickstarting learning of a new area? Have you tried making an LLM correct your "homework" for your studies? When you try to learn a new language? Curiosity is about not being categorical - "It's Stack Overflow copy-pasting MkII." is extremely categorical and thu…

>This reads like a comment from a person who has not tried to integrate LLMs into various workflows

This reads like a comment from a person who makes the discussion about the other person.

>Curiosity is about not being categorical - "It's Stack Overflow copy-pasting MkII." is extremely categorical and thus, anti-curiosity.

You could say the exact same thing about someone criticizing regular Stack Overflow copy-pasting as lacking curiocity and hacking spirit. "Oh, that critique is so extremely categorical".

Sorry, "that's categorical" is not the trump card you think it is.

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