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Re: Stop Using Discord

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Post by robertlagrant »

anymouse123456 wrote: post #70

This. "Join my Discord" is a 100% hard pass for me. Every time I've made an exception, the entire experience is a net-negative. Half the time, I can't even get authenticated and then once I'm in, everything is awful. The notifications, the constant chatter, the dozens of topics, the useless search, it shocks me that anyone over the age of 14 uses it at all. Add to all the broken basics, the fact that your data is now…

I do find it very strange. It assumes I've been "invited" when I just clicked on a link to join from a website. I can't tell why I am or aren't logged in when I join. It's full of animations.

Maybe it's the Gen Z take on IRC, but it seems a bit much. The client is very smooth in performance, though, which is nice.

Re: Stop Using Discord

#102

Post by anonzzzies »

Let’s please get back to forums for knowledge. I am/was in discords where very deep tech talks are shared and then it’s closed suddenly; all is gone. It’s depressing. It’s very terrible. People said here before ‘but you can index it like irc’; lovely, but we don’t now, do we? At least not in any structured way.

Chat fine, do deep discussions that could benefit people months, years and decades from now somewhere else.

Re: Stop Using Discord

#103

Post by barkerja »

moooo99 wrote: post #79
barkerja wrote: post #57

I use Discord quite a bit in the Elixir community and find it quite useful. Messages are persisted. There's a wonderful forum feature now built into the platform; and it's all searchable with a pretty robust filtering mechanism. And with an active server, there's typically always someone around to help you chat through a problem almost immediately. I understand the sentiment, but it does seem misinformed. Slack, on t…

I don’t think the sentiment is misinformed. I understand your position and I’ve had pleasant experiences on discord in the past with people being very willing to help. However, the help I received for my problem is basically impossible to discovered for anybody else (in fact, I have a hard time finding this thread myself). Discord is really great for realtime interactions, wether that be chatting or talking. But it a…

> On conventional forums on the other hand, I have learned so much from reading threads from the past.

I agree, this is a great value. I don't argue against forums, they need to exist.

I was just pointing out that Discord, in my experience, has not been a place of disdain like the original post claims.

Discord has done a lot of work to help foster a good community for all types, especially for the software development communities. If you haven't yet experienced Discord's forum feature, it's worth at least exploring. Here's an example from the Elixir community: https://share.barkerja.dev/4o8Ozk.png

If Discord ever did decide to make this content SEO, what then becomes the major point _against_ something like Discord and your traditional forum?

Re: Stop Using Discord

#104

Post by ThrowawayTestr »

cl3misch wrote: post #96

I'm not the first to say this, but Discord is essentially IRC. It's great for ephemeral chatting and arguably the best platform for that currently. The content on it is not indexed and not discoverable with web search engines. I have been wondering: is it even possible for a platform to fulfill both needs? For searchable, "forum style" discussions, we already have a large accessible platform: Reddit! I genuinely ask…

You can have both. The forum I use also have a irc-like chat section.

Re: Stop Using Discord

#105

Post by rglullis »

Svip wrote: post #13

Where is the Wordpress.com (i.e. commercial hosting) for forums? I maintain a SMF forum that's lasted since 2000, but I get why most people aren't jumping into creating a new forum, because it's rather tedious compared to Discord. Hell, better ask instead; where is the Discord but for forums (real ones, not Discord)?

https://flarum.org/hosting

Re: Stop Using Discord

#106

Post by skeeter2020 »

outime wrote: post #52

It will be as useful as other HN campaigns: stop using WhatsApp and use Signal, stop using Chrome and use Firefox, stop using Twitter and use this OSS alternative with 0.1% of the users, stop using Reddit, stop using Kubernetes, etc.

What's your alternative action? I tend to agree with you, but personally I've tried to stop pointing out problems without providing solutions; failing at something is better than preemptive surrender.

Re: Stop Using Discord

#107

Post by poulpy123 »

miah_ wrote: post #49
benoliver999 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are offline on IRC you don't get messages. I use a bouncer etc but that's more than the average person should have to worry about. There is https://www.irccloud.com/ but I fear it's too little too late Having to create an account on every IRC server is also not great. I use and love IRC, but I get why centralised services take off. It's just a shame it's a sucky one like discord where everything just goes into…

Not getting messages when I'm offline is a feature.

you're mistaking messages and notifications.

Re: Stop Using Discord

#108

Post by NeutralForest »

chrisjj wrote: post #51
NeutralForest wrote: post #37

I feel like we have this discussion every month, one way or another. People use Discord because it's useful and they like the experience. Discourse is nice for purely written communication but if you want to setup a call, direct message and, more importantly, write bots (presentation, topic organization, news, modding, now even AI Q&A); people will fall back to Discord. Pointing at Discourse when it doesn't have the…

> People use Discord because it's useful and they like the experience. Let's fix that. Discord-using people use Discord because it's useful to them and they like the experience.

Ok? That's just being pedantic. The point I'm trying to make, is that we need to find why people use Discord and offer something better for our (devs+technical users) use case; that'll also need to go the existing network effect.

Re: Stop Using Discord

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Post by cl3misch »

ThrowawayTestr wrote: post #104
cl3misch wrote: post #96

I'm not the first to say this, but Discord is essentially IRC. It's great for ephemeral chatting and arguably the best platform for that currently. The content on it is not indexed and not discoverable with web search engines. I have been wondering: is it even possible for a platform to fulfill both needs? For searchable, "forum style" discussions, we already have a large accessible platform: Reddit! I genuinely ask…

You can have both. The forum I use also have a irc-like chat section.

Do you care to share what forum that is? And is its irc-like chat section searchable? Otherwise it is just forum and chat available under the same domain. But information in the IRC section is still ephemeral.

Re: Stop Using Discord

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Post by hyperfuturism »

kwanbix wrote: post #59
NeutralForest wrote: post #37

I feel like we have this discussion every month, one way or another. People use Discord because it's useful and they like the experience. Discourse is nice for purely written communication but if you want to setup a call, direct message and, more importantly, write bots (presentation, topic organization, news, modding, now even AI Q&A); people will fall back to Discord. Pointing at Discourse when it doesn't have the…

I have been using computers for 40 years and I cannot see a single feature of discord that I cannot have on a forum or even reddit. In fact, the UX of Discord is abismal.

You clearly don't have the live chatting feature in a forum or on reddit. I'm assuming it's a tongue in cheek comment, and not to be taken literal, but there are many features that Discord have that other products do not.
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