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Re: Google releases smart watch for kids

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Smartwatches may be an overlooked answer to the kid phone conundrum. Watches have the communication and location tracking that parents demand without the distraction of phones.

I was honestly coming here to say fuck those exploitive assholes at Google. But I see your point. Maybe this could be a good in-between.

Re: Google releases smart watch for kids

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Under Tech Specs, https://store.google.com/us/product/fitbit_ace_lte_specs?hl=...:

"Tap to Pay (NFC)4(Coming soon)"

What? Why would my kid need Tap to Pay? That's just setting the user/Google up for a horror story where the watch wearer goes overboard on spending for some lame game with in-app payments...

Or are they expecting adults to use this as well?

Re: Google releases smart watch for kids

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Under Tech Specs, https://store.google.com/us/product/fitbit_ace_lte_specs?hl=... : "Tap to Pay (NFC)4(Coming soon)" What? Why would my kid need Tap to Pay? That's just setting the user/Google up for a horror story where the watch wearer goes overboard on spending for some lame game with in-app payments... Or are they expecting adults to use this as well?

Tap to pay with spend controls sounds ideal for things like after school snacks/activities and transit. It could also be an easy to way to manage things like allowance digitally?

Re: Google releases smart watch for kids

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Ugh, I threw up a little in my mouth just from the headline.

This constant tracking of kids is unnecessary and dangerous. Generations of kids survived without their parents needing to know their location at all times.

And yes, I totally admit, some kids (very few actually depending on the locale) didn't survive. But we've traded this false sense of "safety" for kids that are so risk averse it is seriously negatively affecting their development. I highly recommend the writings of Jonathan Haidt - he not only has great arguments but also has a lot of data to back up his conclusions.

Kids don't need more tech, they need less of it (and FWIW, most adults, too).

Re: Google releases smart watch for kids

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I think the issue at hand is yes you can enforce this at the family level. However unless high maturity / self awareness the kid will struggle if his peers all have phones. This needs to be a campaign pushed at the school or even county level.

Agree, won't be easy -- he already has many peers with phones. But we have a lot of rules like that (e.g. no unsupervised YouTube use, wear helmets on the bike, etc) and he lives an otherwise well-provisioned life -- I think we'll work something out.

I’m amazed no one is pushing back on this. I respect your decision as a parent — it’s your decision — but not letting them have a phone until 16 or privacy in their YouTube sounds miserable for them. I would be, but everyone is different I suppose.

In contrast, I was watching gore videos by the time I was 13. I think I turned out ok.

We’ll see if it’s survivorship bias, but personally, I plan to give our daughter Kess most of the freedom she’ll want. She’ll figure it out. The worst situation would be for her to develop feelings for someone and not trust her parents with that info. I suspect restricting smartphone usage is exactly how to end up in that situation.

Re: Google releases smart watch for kids

#108

Under Tech Specs, https://store.google.com/us/product/fitbit_ace_lte_specs?hl=... : "Tap to Pay (NFC)4(Coming soon)" What? Why would my kid need Tap to Pay? That's just setting the user/Google up for a horror story where the watch wearer goes overboard on spending for some lame game with in-app payments... Or are they expecting adults to use this as well?

Same reason we have debit cards with parental controls.

If I lived in Chicago, I'd put my Ventra card on my kid's smart watch.

Re: Google releases smart watch for kids

#109

Under Tech Specs, https://store.google.com/us/product/fitbit_ace_lte_specs?hl=... : "Tap to Pay (NFC)4(Coming soon)" What? Why would my kid need Tap to Pay? That's just setting the user/Google up for a horror story where the watch wearer goes overboard on spending for some lame game with in-app payments... Or are they expecting adults to use this as well?

Some urban transit systems use NFC for fares. Maybe you want your kid to have a bus or subway pass without having to carry a wallet.

Re: Google releases smart watch for kids

#110

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Yeah there's discussion about this in scientific articles I've read, where at a certain point the social circle exists on these apps, and by a single individual removing themselves they are forced to effectively choose isolation. I experienced it myself when I deleted instagram. I realized that certain friendships that had been thriving on that channel didn't flow as well outside it, via texting for example. So I red…

> I realized that certain friendships that had been thriving on that channel didn't flow as well outside it, via texting for example. I think it's a strain to call that friendship. Communication channels don't matter in case of friendship. I may text, call, email, etc... and it's all good. But it being exclusive to a specific platform is more a social circle or a club as you said.

I had this happen when I got rid of facebook years ago. I just lost touch with certain groups that were going to the movies or out for drinks or whatever. I just wasn't aware things were happening. Occasionally I'd get "where are you?" texts. No big loss, as I had other much closer groups where the communication mechanism matters less and varies, but I can imagine it could be isolating for some without that.
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