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US court to hear challenges to potential TikTok ban in September

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Re: US court to hear challenges to potential TikTok ban in September

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

linearrust wrote: post #99
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> we managed to survive the entire cold war without banning foreign ownership of media outlets Because we did it in 1934 [1]. There were no Soviet TV channels. [1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/310

You aren't american. It's been established many times here by many people. What 'we' are you referring to?

We disagree on Taiwan’s independence [1].

I genuinely don’t care about where you’re from or your thoughts about me. Like, sure, I’m a sentient cheetah with an igloo on Antarctica.

But I am curious about your thoughts. If you’re open to engaging on that level, I’m actually curious.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40443429

Re: US court to hear challenges to potential TikTok ban in September

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Post by somenameforme »

wumeow wrote: post #94
somenameforme wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is the search I'm using: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gaza+war Most links are covering the recent Israel strike on the refugee camp in Rafah, where dozens of civilians were killed in a single strike. That happened after the UN's International Court of Justice specifically ordered Israel to halt their offensive in Rafah. I think hyperbolic responses to this would not only be expected, but perfectl…

I get a couple videos from Democracy Now and Al-Jazeera as well, some from TRT World further down, not to mention the recommended Shorts. None of the videos are shying away from showing the harrowing aftermath of the strike, and they make sure to qualify any statement from the IDF or Netanyahu as being such.

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Re: US court to hear challenges to potential TikTok ban in September

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Post by nashashmi »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #58
whimsicalism wrote: post #54

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i never voted to be at war with China, i think most of this is fearmongering, and we managed to survive the entire cold war without banning foreign ownership of media outlets.

> we managed to survive the entire cold war without banning foreign ownership of media outlets Because we did it in 1934 [1]. There were no Soviet TV channels. [1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/310

Actually we didn’t. Licensure by foreign entities has always been restricted in the US. It happens in engineering business as well. I think it has something to do with the extent of juris on foreign entities without involving the department of state

Re: US court to hear challenges to potential TikTok ban in September

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Post by mrkramer »

linearrust wrote: post #98
mrkramer wrote: post #86

I know that US has liberal constitution and liberal market economy but putting aside national security risks; why would US let ByteDance reap billions of dollars in profit from US market when Google and Facebook are not allowed to participate in Chinese market and reap profits as well? You could argue that Facebook and Google could abide by Chinese censorship laws and then what? Strip down like 50% from overall conte…

> why would US let ByteDance reap billions of dollars in profit from US market when Google and Facebook are not allowed to participate in Chinese market and reap profits as well? Google and facebook are allowed to participate in the chinese market. If they follow chinese rules. One of them being storing chinese data in china which google and facebook refused to do. Why are microsoft, apple and other tech companies al…

You can shill for CCP as much as you want but when speaking of European or Israeli ideology, yes there are censorship laws but what censorship laws? For Nazi content, why you may ask? Because Nazi regime was mass murdering regime and on the other hand, in China, mass murder Mao is glorified as the father of the nation. That's the difference. Give Chinese people free speech as there is in US and then we can speak about fair competition.

Re: US court to hear challenges to potential TikTok ban in September

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Post by priminal »

harrisrobin wrote: post #92

Are people really that brainwashed that they don’t realize that the only reason tiktok is being banned is because of the Israel Lobby? A foreign nation wants to ban it because it doesn’t serve its interest, this foreign nation happens to buy up all our politicians.

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Re: US court to hear challenges to potential TikTok ban in September

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Post by phendrenad2 »

dylan604 wrote: post #81
phendrenad2 wrote: post #61

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Would you support regulating or banning a conspiracy theory website, hosted in AWS US East 2?

I don't like the content, but I would NOT support banning it. To me, there are things that a fun to play what if with for entertainment purposes and hanging out while puff-puff-passing, but only if there's a strong link to reality with the individual reading it. For those without that link and they conspiracy seems tangible that they accept that as their reality it is no longer entertainment. With the dumbing down of…

So you'd support censorship if enough people took it seriously. It's a good thing the government has never lied and said something was a conspiracy theory when it was actually true. What was that guy's name? Snedword Owden?

Re: US court to hear challenges to potential TikTok ban in September

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Post by roncesvalles »

rurp wrote: post #87
falcolas wrote: post #67

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China announced years ago it would not support the divestment of China's interests in TikTok/Bytedance. So it's always been a de facto ban of TikTok hidden behind the justification that it's not a de jure ban.

Destroying the company rather than selling it for billions of dollars is a crazy stance for a supposedly independent business, and should be taken with a huge grain of salt. There is a good chance they are bluffing, which would be a reasonable strategy as they try to push back on the bill. The only reason they would go through with burning the company down is for geopolitical reasons, which would show how beholden Ti…

1. TikTok is actually not Bytedance's most profitable product.

2. If you sell, you lose. If you let it get banned, you might just need to wait out the current political climate (i.e. end of the Israel/Palestine war; no one really cares about teens' health or some vague Chinese risk - the US can ban it overnight in case war ever erupts with China).

3. Even if they were open to a sale, it's beneficial to publicly maintain that they aren't.

Re: US court to hear challenges to potential TikTok ban in September

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Post by roncesvalles »

mrkramer wrote: post #86

I know that US has liberal constitution and liberal market economy but putting aside national security risks; why would US let ByteDance reap billions of dollars in profit from US market when Google and Facebook are not allowed to participate in Chinese market and reap profits as well? You could argue that Facebook and Google could abide by Chinese censorship laws and then what? Strip down like 50% from overall conte…

US tech companies jump through a lot of hoops to play in Europe.

Re: US court to hear challenges to potential TikTok ban in September

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Post by thunky »

wumeow wrote: post #94
somenameforme wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is the search I'm using: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gaza+war Most links are covering the recent Israel strike on the refugee camp in Rafah, where dozens of civilians were killed in a single strike. That happened after the UN's International Court of Justice specifically ordered Israel to halt their offensive in Rafah. I think hyperbolic responses to this would not only be expected, but perfectl…

I get a couple videos from Democracy Now and Al-Jazeera as well, some from TRT World further down, not to mention the recommended Shorts. None of the videos are shying away from showing the harrowing aftermath of the strike, and they make sure to qualify any statement from the IDF or Netanyahu as being such.

Honest question:

If Hamas used a precision strike to destroy an Israeli school full of children do you think the coverage would be similar? Or would it be conveyed as an act of terrorism rather than an act of war?

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