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Re: Veo

#101
post #46

Not nearly as impressive as Sora. Sora was impressive because the clips were long and had lots of rapid movement since video models tend to fall apart when the movement isn't easy to predict. By comparison, the shots here are only a few seconds long and almost all look like slow motion or slow panning shots cherrypicked because they don't have that much movement. Compare that to Sora's videos of people walking in rea…

> Sora was impressive because the clips were long and had lots of rapid movement

Sora videos ran at 1 beat per second, so everything in the image moved at the same beat and often too slow or too fast to keep the pace.

It is very obvious when you inspect the images and notice that there are keyframes at every whole second mark and everything on the screen suddenly goes in their next animation step.

That really limits the kind of videos you can generate.

Re: Veo

#102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they punish experimentation as it eats into their bottom line. AI is a tool for ads in the mind of executives at Google. Ads and monetization of human productivity, not an agent of productivity on its own.

"Laser-focused on the bottom line at the expense of all else" is not how I'd describe Google, now or at any point in the past. They have a lot of dysfunction, but if anything that dysfunction stems from too much experimentation and autonomy at the leaf nodes of the organization. That's how they get into these crazy places where they have to pick between 5 chat apps or whatever. If Google were as focused on ads as you…

I'd describe Google as focused on the bottom line after they put the ads guy in charge of search.

I'm referring to this article that was posted here recently:

https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-men-who-killed-google/

Re: Veo

#103

To quote Twitter/X, "I wonder what OpenAI will release tomorrow and Google will release a waitlist for." GPT-4o: out Veo: waitlist Admittedly this is impressive and the direct comp would be Sora, which isn't out, but sometimes the caricature is very close to the truth.

To be fair, all the voice stuff OpenAI demoed isn't released yet either.

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Re: Veo

#104

I hate to be so cynical, but I'm dreading the inevitable flood of AI generated video spam. We really are about this close to infinite jest. Imagine TikTok's algorithm with on demand video generation to suit your exact tastes. It may erase the social aspect, but for many users I doubt that would matter too much. "Lurking" into oblivion.

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Re: Veo

#105
post #46

Not nearly as impressive as Sora. Sora was impressive because the clips were long and had lots of rapid movement since video models tend to fall apart when the movement isn't easy to predict. By comparison, the shots here are only a few seconds long and almost all look like slow motion or slow panning shots cherrypicked because they don't have that much movement. Compare that to Sora's videos of people walking in rea…

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Re: Veo

#106
post #97
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean? Everyone has access to the gpt-4o model right now through ChatGPT and the API. Sure we don't have voice-to-voice but we have a lot more than what Google has promised.

How do I get access? I just checked my app and the Premium upgrade says it will unlocked GPT-3.5 and GPT-4, so I assume my version is still the old one. All my apps are updated in the App Store too.

I have a paid account, and I didn't have to do anything to use the new model.

Re: Veo

#107

To quote Twitter/X, "I wonder what OpenAI will release tomorrow and Google will release a waitlist for." GPT-4o: out Veo: waitlist Admittedly this is impressive and the direct comp would be Sora, which isn't out, but sometimes the caricature is very close to the truth.

I can't even join the waitlist from Europe while 4o is fully available here.

Re: Veo

#108
post #97
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean? Everyone has access to the gpt-4o model right now through ChatGPT and the API. Sure we don't have voice-to-voice but we have a lot more than what Google has promised.

How do I get access? I just checked my app and the Premium upgrade says it will unlocked GPT-3.5 and GPT-4, so I assume my version is still the old one. All my apps are updated in the App Store too.

I just checked, there was an iOS app update available and it enabled it. I'd check again if there's a new update (version 1.2024.129). Or you could use the website.

Re: Veo

#109
post #97
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean? Everyone has access to the gpt-4o model right now through ChatGPT and the API. Sure we don't have voice-to-voice but we have a lot more than what Google has promised.

How do I get access? I just checked my app and the Premium upgrade says it will unlocked GPT-3.5 and GPT-4, so I assume my version is still the old one. All my apps are updated in the App Store too.

I have premium access and I can select 4o in the dropdown menu on Android

Re: Veo

#110

Kind of sucks to be google. Even they're making good progress here, and have laid the foundations of a lot if not most things.. their products are, well there aren't any noteworthy compared to rest. And considering google is sitting on top of one of the largest if not THE largest video database, along with maps, traffic, search, internet.zip, usenet, vast computing resources vertically integrated.. they have the whol…

It's often said you need to disrupt your own business model.

Google had blinders on. They didn't relentlessly focus on reinventing their domain. They just milked what they had. Gradually losing site of the user experience[1] to focus on monetization above all else.

1 - https://twitter.com/pdrmnvd/status/1707395736458207430

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