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Apple introduces M4 chip

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#102

Call me crazy, but I want all that power in a 7" tablet. I like 7" tablets most because they feel less clunky to carry around and take with you. Same with 13" laptops, I'm willing to sacrifice on screen real estate for saving myself from the back pain of carrying a 15" or larger laptop. Some of this is insanely impressive. I wonder how big the OS ROM (or whatever) is with all these models. For context, even if the en…

The next iPhone pro max will be 6.9 inches

That fits all your wants

Re: Apple introduces M4 chip

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post #23

"With these improvements to the CPU and GPU, M4 maintains Apple silicon’s industry-leading performance per watt. M4 can deliver the same performance as M2 using just half the power. And compared with the latest PC chip in a thin and light laptop, M4 can deliver the same performance using just a fourth of the power." That's an incredible improvement in just a few years. I wonder how much of that is Apple engineering a…

Potentially > 2x greater battery life for the same amount of compute! That is pretty crazy. Or am I missing something?

Is the CPU/GPU really dominating power consumption that much?

Re: Apple introduces M4 chip

#104

The 256gb and 512gb models have 8gb of ram. The 1tb and 2tb models have 16gb. Not a fan of tying ram to storage. https://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/specs/

It's fairly absurd that they're still selling a 256gb "Pro" machine in the first place. That said, Apple's policy toward SKUs is pretty consistent: you pay more money and you get more machine, and vice versa. The MacBooks are the only product which has separately configurable memory / storage / chip, and even there some combinations aren't manufactured.

>> It's fairly absurd that they're still selling a 256gb "Pro" machine in the first place.

My guess is they want you to use their cloud storage and pay monthly for it.

Re: Apple introduces M4 chip

#105
Are these M-class chips available to be purchased on Digi-Key and Mouser? Do they have data sheets and recommended circuitry? I’d love to play with one just to see how difficult it is to integrate compared to, say, an stm8/32 or something.

Re: Apple introduces M4 chip

#106

Is it just me or is there not a single performance chart here? Their previous CPU announcements have all had perf-per-watt charts, and that's conspicuously missing here. If this is an improvement over previous gens, wouldn't they want to show that off?

Since Intel->M1 the performance gains haven't been the headliners they once were, although the uplifts haven't been terrible. It also lets them hide behind the more impressive sounding multiplier which can reference something more specific but not necessarily applicable to broader tasks.

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#108

if only macOS would run on iPad..

Please no. I don't want no touch support in macOS.

Because it would be so great you couldn’t help using it? /h

What would be the downside to other’s using it?

I get frustrated that Mac doesn’t respond to look & pinch!

Re: Apple introduces M4 chip

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post #24

> M4 makes the new iPad Pro an outrageously powerful device for artificial intelligence. Isn’t there a ToS prohibition about “custom coding” in iOS? Like, the only way you can ever use that hardware directly is for developers who go through Apple Developer Program, which last time I heard was bitter lemon? Tell me if I’m wrong.

You're not wrong. It's why I don't use apple hardware anymore for work or play. On Android and Windows I can build and install whatever I like, without having to go through mother-Apple for permission.
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