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Helldivers 2 Removed from Purchase on Steam in over 150 Countries

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Re: Helldivers 2 Removed from Purchase on Steam in over 150 Countries

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Post by MichaelZuo »

goosedragons wrote: post #97
sunaurus wrote: post #16

I've always found it ridiculous that Sony is allowed to sell their consoles and games in my county without allowing me to create a PSN account. They even sell the digital PS5, which REQUIRES a PSN account to get any games. And then, even if you break their TOS and create an account in another country, you're still constantly inconvenienced - you can't pay for games using your local payment method, for example, and a…

Is it actually Sony selling their games or consoles in your country or is it 3rd party sellers who import them from elsewhere because there's demand? It is still shitty and annoying that stuff is geoblocked, be it games, movies, books, etc. But the two are pretty different.

This^ There are so many third party resellers that probably most are unauthorized.

Re: Helldivers 2 Removed from Purchase on Steam in over 150 Countries

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Post by klik99 »

Hugsun wrote: post #95
junon wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Arrowhead has sold out before with e.g. Magicka, so I'm sure they're somewhat used to it by now. You're not a developer that signs with a publisher like Sony without knowing the risks.

What happened with magicka?

It’s still playable but overrun with the worst kind of paradox dlc. Arrowhead are great devs but their biz side comes off as explorative. I was happy to see HD2 actually does a good job at post game monitization because they did such a sloppy job with mahicka

Re: Helldivers 2 Removed from Purchase on Steam in over 150 Countries

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Post by jojobas »

xyst wrote: post #58
unpopularopp wrote: post #3

I hope one day the EU will go after Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo. If iOS is a walled garden then consoles are prison.

Apple ecosystem is a prison as well. Just cleverly disguised as a garden :)

More like a cult farmhouse, you're free to leave but won't.

Re: Helldivers 2 Removed from Purchase on Steam in over 150 Countries

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Post by surgical_fire »

greenish_shores wrote: post #54
surgical_fire wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You are being sold a computer Videogame consoles are typically not marketed as general purpose computers. Out of the box, the only thing I can do on my Nintendo Switch is play videogames.

Not even this. It probably has a full-fledged browser pre-installed, making its classification as a general-purpose computer pretty obvious even for an average user, and far less "hackish" than otherwise.

Nintendo Switch doesn't even have an easily accessible Internet browser.

In fact, I was not even sure it had one. I had to look it up and found this: https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/how-to-use-hidden-ninte...

It would be difficult to make a case that the average user would see this as a general purpose computer.

Re: Helldivers 2 Removed from Purchase on Steam in over 150 Countries

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Post by silverquiet »

unpopularopp wrote: post #3

I hope one day the EU will go after Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo. If iOS is a walled garden then consoles are prison.

If only the US had some sort of anti-trust laws, then perhaps we wouldn't need to rely on the EU to regulate US companies. To be clear, that is snark because that's how I communicate, however I suppose it could be argued that the laws we have have effectively been neutered through selection of right-wing justices over the last half century or so, and so we are indeed helpless against the ever consolidating megacorps.

Re: Helldivers 2 Removed from Purchase on Steam in over 150 Countries

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Post by RobotToaster »

terramex wrote: post #5
Caligatio wrote: post #2

As a Helldivers 2 PC player who also owns a PS5, this new requirement doesn't bother me personally. However, adding a requirement (it was previously optional) is boneheaded, maybe illegal. It must be terrible to be Arrowhead; they have to sit by and watch while their player base implodes because of a Sony edict.

Requirement was always there, just not enforced due to „technical issues”. https://web.archive.org/web/20231207163847/https://store.ste... > „Requires 3rd-Party Account: PlayStation Network” However, making it purchasable from countries not supported by PSN accounts was big error on their part.

IANAL, but couldn't non enforcement create an implied-in-fact contract?

Re: Helldivers 2 Removed from Purchase on Steam in over 150 Countries

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

flohofwoe wrote: post #11
pyinstallwoes wrote: post #8

Sorry, I lack context, what happened?

A multiplayer game that's very successful on Steam - but published by Sony - suddenly has a requirement to have both a Steam and PSN account in order to log into the game - a couple of months after the game was released. As a PC gamer I would be pissed too tbh (on the other hand, it's the same bullshit that Ubisoft pulls for their games released on Steam).

Does the account cost money also?

Re: Helldivers 2 Removed from Purchase on Steam in over 150 Countries

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Post by greenish_shores »

surgical_fire wrote: post #104
greenish_shores wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not even this. It probably has a full-fledged browser pre-installed, making its classification as a general-purpose computer pretty obvious even for an average user, and far less "hackish" than otherwise.

Nintendo Switch doesn't even have an easily accessible Internet browser. In fact, I was not even sure it had one. I had to look it up and found this: https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/how-to-use-hidden-ninte... It would be difficult to make a case that the average user would see this as a general purpose computer.

Interesting.

Re: Helldivers 2 Removed from Purchase on Steam in over 150 Countries

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Post by neocritter »

Kim_Bruning wrote: post #87

On Steam: If there's little yellow boxes in the right hand column, someone somewhere is reserving the right to ruin your day in some way. Helldivers 2 has three of them: DRM, Third party account, and third party EULA. Best avoid games with little yellow boxes, especially if you prefer just playing games vs legal drama. (And of course gog.com doesn't have any little yellow boxes)

Can confirm. I bought Freespace 2 in 2009 and it's still there in my account with no DRM.
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