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The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by smith7018 »

paxys wrote: post #91
raverbashing wrote: post #85

I'm surprised people are surprised this Rabbit thing is running Android 99.9% of the HW projects that have a modestly complex display/networking need run on Android. It's a no-brainer. OEM the HW from China, even if moderately custom and they can get you something for cheap.

The surprising part isn't that the device is running Android OS, but that the whole thing is a single Android app .

Well, it's technically a system-level launcher which means it has more permissions and access than a standard app.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by woleium »

mritchie712 wrote: post #98
aeurielesn wrote: post #86

To be honest, I still don't understand the appeal of this product. I've always got a "one-time quick-cash hustle" video out of it and I can't trust it.

It's not a very good cash hustle if people actually use it. From what I can tell, it's a one time $200 payment and you can use the LLM indefinitely. If the device costs $100 to produce and ship that's only $100 left to cover compute... forever. It seems they want the compute to run on device, but that doesn't seem to be the case right now[0]. I don't know the specs of the device, but pretty sure it'd have to cost mor…

i believe its a 12 month license to use the llm, but still, that’s nearly 200 by itself, so it seems like a sensible option to get both.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by wiseowise »

paxys wrote: post #91
raverbashing wrote: post #85

I'm surprised people are surprised this Rabbit thing is running Android 99.9% of the HW projects that have a modestly complex display/networking need run on Android. It's a no-brainer. OEM the HW from China, even if moderately custom and they can get you something for cheap.

The surprising part isn't that the device is running Android OS, but that the whole thing is a single Android app .

Haven't used (or even seen IRL) Rabbit R1, but is there anything that requires it to be something more than an app? Isn't it just a thin layer with access to microphone and camera that translates everything to the backend?

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by woleium »

jeroenhd wrote: post #88

I haven't heard anything about the Rabbit R1, what is it supposed to be? Based on the video it looks like this is just Google Assistant except not by Google, what makes it different from a normal phone?

google wont allow alternative voice assistants on android, so they had little choice.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by nerdjon »

rvnx wrote: post #100
nerdjon wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think people (well outside of some clickbait headlines) are surprised it is running Android. But more that it is an app. Personally I figured it was running Android but likely a heavily modified fork. Especially after how many times they seem to have buckled down on it not being possible as just an app. (Unless I am misunderstanding and it is indeed a fork and not just an App? ).

There is no need to get anything more complex than needed; the Rabbit R1 is just an Android phone, pre-installed with only one app, with an action button bound, and that's it.

I agree to a point, there is no reason to over complicate it.

But if you are going to make claims about how its impossible to be an app, maybe you should be making sure that it isnt just an app and you are going down the route of it being its own distro.

I am not saying it should have been its own android distro, but it was my expectation given how they were talking about it.

I mean did they really not expect people to dig into it once it was in the wild and find their exaggeration (lies)?

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by paxys »

mritchie712 wrote: post #98
aeurielesn wrote: post #86

To be honest, I still don't understand the appeal of this product. I've always got a "one-time quick-cash hustle" video out of it and I can't trust it.

It's not a very good cash hustle if people actually use it. From what I can tell, it's a one time $200 payment and you can use the LLM indefinitely. If the device costs $100 to produce and ship that's only $100 left to cover compute... forever. It seems they want the compute to run on device, but that doesn't seem to be the case right now[0]. I don't know the specs of the device, but pretty sure it'd have to cost mor…

It is most definitely selling at a loss and trying to generate enough hype to get acquired.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by paxys »

doix wrote: post #102

So as far as I can tell, this is a pay $200 once and use AI infinitely device. Are the keys inside the APK? What's stopping someone just using these guys OpenAI (or whatever they use) service for free?

I can guarantee that somewhere in the terms and conditions there's a buried line that says that they are not obligated to operate the AI features for free forever.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by datpiff »

tb1989 wrote: post #87

Doesn't surprise me. In my opinion, many companies try to achieve outrageous premiums by taking the route of teen engineering (the originator of hype). In addition to rabbit, there is also a series of nothing products. This doesn't convince the tech fetishists. In fact, I think te's contribution to music is very limited, even harmful, especially when I see the latest Yamaha even imitating te, which feels a bit funny…

I don't like most of TE's output but the OP-1 is definitely innovative.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Post by alphabetting »

woleium wrote: post #105
jeroenhd wrote: post #88

I haven't heard anything about the Rabbit R1, what is it supposed to be? Based on the video it looks like this is just Google Assistant except not by Google, what makes it different from a normal phone?

google wont allow alternative voice assistants on android, so they had little choice.

?? Bixby and Alexa are on Android.
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