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Dear Europe, please wake up

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Re: Dear Europe, please wake up

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"If you go to the south of France – our hope and prayers in the global AI race – and order a coffee there is a chance that the waitress doesn’t understand the word “coffee”, can’t explain you what’s in the salad – happened to me twice." Oh they'll understand. They will just pretend not to. It's France.

Oh no! Someone in a foreign country did not make any more effort than the author did to learn a foreign language! Not once, but twice ! That's it, I'm never leaving San Francisco again. And as for your snark, no, many French people do not speak English, and a fair number resent Americans going around like they own the place without making even a cursory attempt at being polite.

Best way for a native English speaker to get someone in France to speak English is to speak French to them.

I speak French, German, and a small amount of Greek (enough to order a coffee and read a map). That's no use when I go to Italy or Spain or Poland or Latvia or Sweden of course, so we just speak English.

The big difference between europe and america is the market. The US is a homogenous culture with a single language and single desires with 350 million people. You can launch a product in the US based on US culture and assumptions and reach a massive economy

Launch it in Belgium and you've got a fragmented market. Not just the language, but also the culture -- expectations in Belgium, Romania and Norway are all very different.

Re: Dear Europe, please wake up

#102

Does the data presented here distinguish between full-time and part-time employment? Or hourly and salaried employment? I wasn’t able to find any information other than “hours worked per person employed”, which seems a rather vague statistic to be used to support any claim.

Good question -- I believe the source is here: https://www.bruegel.org/analysis/european-unions-remarkable-...

Reading between the lines, I do not think it distinguishes between full-time and part-time employment: "In Europe, employees tend to work fewer hours than in the US, partly because there are more paid holidays, the typical working week of a full-time employee is shorter and there is a larger share of part-time workers than in the US."

Re: Dear Europe, please wake up

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Curiously China's very successful economic model - in which capital is more under state control than in private hands, but there's still a competetive market as industrial monopolies are discouraged - isn't brought up here - even though certain major European industrial sectors seem to be finding China more attractive these days, e.g. BASF;

https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/basf-agrees-15-year-ga...

Apparently the Chinese are working too hard and being too productive, hence Janet Yellen complaining about 'overcapacity' recently:

> "I think the Chinese realise how concerned we are about the implications of their industrial strategy, for the United States, for the potential to flood our markets with exports that make it difficult for American firms to compete" Yellen said. "And then other countries have the same concern."

Re: Dear Europe, please wake up

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The flipside is your company can't just fire you at will, which is rather nice in this day and age.

I'm not trying to be obtuse, but at what point do the worker protections discourage employment? If I have to pay the huge employee fees associated with the EU, I may just go hire someone in Asia.

From almost the beginning itself. Whenever you hire, you have to consider how hard it would be to get rid of the employee for whatever reason (underperformance, changing business needs etc.)

Re: Dear Europe, please wake up

#107

I have no idea whether Europeans work harder than Americans, but I do want to say that you can't extrapolate the overall work ethic of America by looking at the SF tech world. It's a very, very small (and very privileged) microcosm of the country.

I have to admit I raised an eyebrow at Greece being near the top of the list. That's going against stereotype hard.

It is hours worked, not productivity. If a shopkeeper takes a three hour lunch and sits in the sun in front of his shop half the time but stays open from 08:00-20:00 according to the stats he’s working 12h days.

Re: Dear Europe, please wake up

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Im an American currently living in Europe (Germany). I’ve founded a few companies in the US. I have a project that’s going well, could easily turn into a startup, but I’m not sure I’d found it here—genuinely struggling with it. The way companies fundraise here is a bit weird to me. Much smaller rounds. Also typically thinking smaller in general. Obviously, everything is very commercially focused. In Germany, the work…

> Don’t even get me started about on-call culture.

No, I don't want to answer to your pager robot at 3 am for things I have no control over and don't want to touch. Get another robot to answer that or hire an SRE. I want to write my CSS and my 1 hour lunch break and live a life.

Re: Dear Europe, please wake up

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>> If every day is 1% harder for you than your competitor who will win? Your competitor. And in global markets where frequently 1-2 companies become the dominant player in a market this means you will not be a bit smaller. You will fight for scraps. Abandon all hope. The race to the bottom is over. Any country not bowing at the feet of ever tech founder will be relegated to third-world status by the end of the decade…

As a startup founder in Germany, I am very unhappy about all the friction. „Just Fuck off“ is very unhelpful as an advice, or even as a basis for discussion, and mostly unrelated to the article posted.

Marginal tax rate of 45% before 5.5% solidarity tax and 8%-9% church tax is why my HNW friends in Germany moved to Switzerland. There is also an exit tax if you try to leave the plantation.

Re: Dear Europe, please wake up

#110
My company offers relocation from the US to Paris. The Paris office is beautiful, right near the Eiffel Tower.

If I take the relocation I get an automatic 50% salary cut, and my tax bill goes way up. Not to mention VAT and other expenses.

Seems like Europe’s problem with innovation is maybe related.

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