Too bad the aliens stopped visiting so prominently the moment camera phones became ubiquitous.
Here's a pretty decent video of one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBdEeHYDuyc
That's fascinating, I wonder what it is.
Jimmy Carter UFO Incident
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I want the aliens to be real so much. But even if it doesn't turn out to be aliens, these sorts of events present an opportunity to study and explore as-of-yet unexplored or poorly understood phenomenon, which can be equally exciting. One of the main reasons why the UFO crowd discredits itself is the way that the crazies in the community are overrepresented, and look at "this flying object is not identified" and au…
That's part of the campaign to discredit what others see and to encourage anyone who sees something to keep quiet.
> That's part of the campaign to discredit what others see and to encourage anyone who sees something to keep quiet.
Here's the ugly crackpot conspiracy loons angle rearing it's head.
Re: Jimmy Carter UFO Incident
#103It's crazy to me how this link gets upvoted in HackerNews but not David Grursch's (former NRO/NGA Intel Officer) claims don't. He testified under oath to the Intelligence Community Inspector Generals, both Senate/House Intel Committees, and a public House Oversight Committee under oath that the USG has recovered crashed/landed non-human intelligence craft. The ICIG referred Grusch's claims to the intel committees as…
Because he provided no evidence, merely hearsay.
All of the evidence is classified. If he would've brought out imagery or any evidence to the public, he would've been put in jail.
And it's not "hearsay" He brought 40 people with first hand knowledge to the ICIG. People who worked in the reverse engineering programs - who touched the craft.
Unlike Snowden who just released a bunch of classified information to the public, Grusch went through the proper whistleblower channels and submitted the evidence to the ICIG.
Look at my edit regarding the Senate Majority leader.
Re: Jimmy Carter UFO Incident
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
Although this characterization does not represent a lot of the analyses, and I think it's silly to "homogenize" a group of people and misrepresent them via stereotype. Isn't that a definition of discrimination? That seems to be very silly. Haha! :) Anyway, analysis focuses on "5 unexplainable observables" like : lift without control surfaces, instant acceleration, low observability, hypersonics without signatures, tr…
> Although this characterization does not represent a lot of the analyses, and I think it's silly to "homogenize" a group of people and misrepresent them via stereotype. You certainly aren't being serious. The term UFO has been so abused by crackpots and conspiracy loons that it managed to be synonymous with unbelievable reports of aliens.
Oh, I'm being serious. But the point about 'UFO' is different to the point about mischaracterizing people: which you seem to be doing. That seems to be an abusive thing, definitely.
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#105I found several photos and a short video of the type (?) of barium cloud experiment the article refers to, https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/90497/colorful-clou... ( "Colorful Clouds Glow Over Virginia" (2017)) https://www.nasa.gov/solar-system/nasa-launches-two-rockets-... ( "NASA Launches Two Rockets Studying Auroras" (2019)) - "The AZURE mission is designed to make measurements of the atmospheric density an…
Thanks was wondering this! The clouds sure coalesce into more of an orb than I was expecting
Re: Jimmy Carter UFO Incident
#106"... Carter himself later said that, while he had considered the object to be a UFO—on the grounds it was unexplained—his knowledge of physics had meant he had not believed himself to be witnessing an alien spacecraft." Can you imagine that someone this clear-headed was ever the President of the United States?
> his knowledge of physics... ...of our contemporary civilization. If you think objectively about it, there is no reason for the technological level of any potential alien visitor to be in a range that we can understand - solely for the act of traveling great distances that are required to reach a distant star, they would need to have discovered physics paradigms far beyond our understanding today. Us trying to 'inte…
> solely for the act of traveling great distances that are required to reach a distant star, they would need to have discovered physics paradigms far beyond our understanding today.
No, they wouldn't. Modest progress in engineering and cultural adaptation, would produce generation ships large enough to sustain a human colony capable of traversing the galaxy on the scale of thousands of years. On the other hand, we could launch a ChatGPT-enabled* probe to arrive at Proxima Centauri in about a century with today's technology.
If you think objectively about it, "physics paradigms far beyond our understanding today" do not necessarily exist. Or if they do, they will not necessarily contribute significantly to our ability to traverse interstellar distances. While it is hubris to assume that we know everything; it is foolhardy to assume that there is gold at the end of the rainbow.
* note that ChatGPT is rather pathetic compared to intelligent life; but it's what we can ship today
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#107"... Carter himself later said that, while he had considered the object to be a UFO—on the grounds it was unexplained—his knowledge of physics had meant he had not believed himself to be witnessing an alien spacecraft." Can you imagine that someone this clear-headed was ever the President of the United States?
Did he mean that like:
- "I know I saw something that violated my laws of physics, but my knowledge of physics prevented me from believing it (was a physical object/ was real/ was actually behaving in the physics-violating way I saw)." or
- "From my knowledge of physics it was clear that aliens could not get here, so whatever I saw could not have been their craft."
or something else?
Re: Jimmy Carter UFO Incident
#108Also of interest https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter_rabbit_incident
Re: Jimmy Carter UFO Incident
#109It's crazy to me how this link gets upvoted in HackerNews but not David Grursch's (former NRO/NGA Intel Officer) claims don't. He testified under oath to the Intelligence Community Inspector Generals, both Senate/House Intel Committees, and a public House Oversight Committee under oath that the USG has recovered crashed/landed non-human intelligence craft. The ICIG referred Grusch's claims to the intel committees as…
At least it's getting discussed now. I think part of the reason could be Grusch is like "the deep end" for many people. Whereas Carter seeing a maybe-UFO is an easier introduction, which is perfectly fine! Everyone is at a different stage at this point :)
BTW this was a really good summary!!! :)
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#110John Oliver did a UFO segment just a few days back: https://youtu.be/zRdhoYqCAQg
Worth mentioning that in the first minute there’s video of Carter relaying his UFO sighting.