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Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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post #99

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Worth waiting for the drop on Stairway! But what is Denton playing just after, ca. 2:40? Didgeridoo? Chapman stick variant? Something else? The hypnodancers got away that time, but if they ever did get nicked, "it'll all (in not so russian Ukraine) be OK": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Am5AEPHd6k

You got me re: Denton - it's not a broomstick or commonplace air guitar physical cheat, bit long for a clap stick, bit red for a vacuum cleaner pipe ... it's quite likely something he found down a city street. Heh. Those degenerate drag acts are probably why Putin Puts out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-wFKNy0MZQ

The tradition of New Slovenian Art is alive and well!

No official residence is worthy of the name until it's had a pony ridden through a roofed area: https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2EBH0MF/president-kennedy-with-car... (bonus points if saloon doors are involved)

> He was used to messes, and men’s bedrooms, and places where ponies are not usually encouraged, and in his youth had jumped on and off a mess-table for a bet. So he behaved himself very politely, and ate bread dipped in salt, and was petted all round the table, moving gingerly; and they drank his health, because he had done more to win the Cup than any man or horse on the ground. —JRK

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

#102
post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You got me re: Denton - it's not a broomstick or commonplace air guitar physical cheat, bit long for a clap stick, bit red for a vacuum cleaner pipe ... it's quite likely something he found down a city street. Heh. Those degenerate drag acts are probably why Putin Puts out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-wFKNy0MZQ

The tradition of New Slovenian Art is alive and well! No official residence is worthy of the name until it's had a pony ridden through a roofed area: https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2EBH0MF/president-kennedy-with-car... (bonus points if saloon doors are involved) > He was used to messes, and men’s bedrooms, and places where ponies are not usually encouraged, and in his youth had jumped on and off a mess-table for a bet. So…

It wasn't until I was 18 that I first rode a horse into a hotel in Gippsland, I've always been law abiding and didn't want to get carded and tossed out.

Ponies in roofed areas are surprisingly common: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYjB2L6G9fE

Charging with bayonets across four miles of open ground to jump machine gun nests is less common, so there's one for the day (April 25th): https://www.awm.gov.au/articles/blog/the-charge-of-the-4th-l... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9kN6AHX37E

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

#103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tradition of New Slovenian Art is alive and well! No official residence is worthy of the name until it's had a pony ridden through a roofed area: https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2EBH0MF/president-kennedy-with-car... (bonus points if saloon doors are involved) > He was used to messes, and men’s bedrooms, and places where ponies are not usually encouraged, and in his youth had jumped on and off a mess-table for a bet. So…

It wasn't until I was 18 that I first rode a horse into a hotel in Gippsland, I've always been law abiding and didn't want to get carded and tossed out. Ponies in roofed areas are surprisingly common: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYjB2L6G9fE Charging with bayonets across four miles of open ground to jump machine gun nests is less common, so there's one for the day (April 25th): https://www.awm.gov.au/articles/blog…

Wow, you all really do ride in "australian stock saddles" (interesting to see some had horns; have ropes been taking over from whips?) Sorry about the gall; normally the string girths are very good against that sort of thing.

(it also struck me how often "proud" came up: my wife asks me "why do americans always have to be proud of things?" when she's watching TV, but maybe it's not just us seppos, but more a general anglophone thing?)

Back to the Ottomans: (could've been much worse, could have been the Dardanelles and Gallipoli?)

2 days stiff march to get told the only water is behind enemy lines is, I guess, a form of motivation. At least it's a little more creative than burning the bridges behind you?

And the turks knew the 4th was there, too, if they were already shelling and sending aeroplanes. I'm guessing the only reason this could possibly have worked is because the turks had expected they'd fight as dragoons, dismounted? (I had heard of this charge before, but not the detail that they were using bayonets as makeshift sabres. The only bayonets I've seen from that period are much smaller than sabres, more kindjal sized)

> the last 200 yards or so was good going and those horses put on pace and next were jumping the trenches with the Turks underneath

That's maybe a bit under 15 seconds — which sounds like a long time to be in the open charging repeating rifles, let alone emplaced MGs. Yikes.

As to Totilas, my wife is a fan; it's a shame they broke that pair up. A very lucrative shame, but a shame nonetheless.

(I myself barracked for Fuego at the time. Lusitanian and hispanic horsemanship owes a lot to the moorish influence [hmm... might moor be cognate to italian "morena"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRDZjj7-tOk ] and therefore they do a lot more to put a handle on a horse [what Kipling —another admirer of Walers— would call being bridle-wise] and aim for a bit more spirited stock than in the "doma clasica")

In other news I was trying to figure out how to rejigger "American Pie" for Down Under and I think I have the chorus:

  So, bye-bye, Miss Straya-an Pie
  Drove my Holden to the station, but the station was dry
  And them battler blokes were drinkin', swatting the flies
  Singin', "This'll be the day that I die
  This'll be the day that I die"
but the verses are a bit of a slog, eg:

  I was a lonely teenage outlaw beaut
  With a pink corella and a tradie ute
  But I knew I was ??? ??? ???
  The day the music died
EDIT: just checked the The Lighthorsemen (1987) scene. They have the bayonet detail; I don't know how accurate the rest is but unlike the real time of Star Wars IV, it seems too extended: final charge as depicted is started over 1km from the trenches and they had already picked up pace 3:20 away (another 1,5km?).

EDIT 2: according to the map they assembled (at 16.30) 1,6km from the trenches and according to the text departed after 17.00 with 400 m to the ridge, so the real charge would've been 900m at pace and 300m flat out; I guess that to be about 1:10 to the trenches, not the 4:30 of the movie.

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

#104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wasn't until I was 18 that I first rode a horse into a hotel in Gippsland, I've always been law abiding and didn't want to get carded and tossed out. Ponies in roofed areas are surprisingly common: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYjB2L6G9fE Charging with bayonets across four miles of open ground to jump machine gun nests is less common, so there's one for the day (April 25th): https://www.awm.gov.au/articles/blog…

Wow, you all really do ride in "australian stock saddles" (interesting to see some had horns; have ropes been taking over from whips?) Sorry about the gall; normally the string girths are very good against that sort of thing. (it also struck me how often "proud" came up: my wife asks me "why do americans always have to be proud of things?" when she's watching TV, but maybe it's not just us seppos, but more a general…

My bad: 110s is 1:50, not 1:10!

also, https://www.slq.qld.gov.au/blog/tag/queensland-black-watch

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, you all really do ride in "australian stock saddles" (interesting to see some had horns; have ropes been taking over from whips?) Sorry about the gall; normally the string girths are very good against that sort of thing. (it also struck me how often "proud" came up: my wife asks me "why do americans always have to be proud of things?" when she's watching TV, but maybe it's not just us seppos, but more a general…

My bad: 110s is 1:50, not 1:10! also, https://www.slq.qld.gov.au/blog/tag/queensland-black-watch

Just watched the original movie, I guess the video I had timed was recut to go with the 2 Steps From Hell audio. In the original movie, it takes them 9:15 to cover 1200m (<8 kmh, a fast human jog!) and there's a turk calling out distances that have no relation to either the map from your article or to what horses are physically capable of.

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wasn't until I was 18 that I first rode a horse into a hotel in Gippsland, I've always been law abiding and didn't want to get carded and tossed out. Ponies in roofed areas are surprisingly common: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYjB2L6G9fE Charging with bayonets across four miles of open ground to jump machine gun nests is less common, so there's one for the day (April 25th): https://www.awm.gov.au/articles/blog…

Wow, you all really do ride in "australian stock saddles" (interesting to see some had horns; have ropes been taking over from whips?) Sorry about the gall; normally the string girths are very good against that sort of thing. (it also struck me how often "proud" came up: my wife asks me "why do americans always have to be proud of things?" when she's watching TV, but maybe it's not just us seppos, but more a general…

> Lusitanian and hispanic horsemanship owes a lot to the moorish influence..., and therefore they do a lot more to put a handle on a horse

This is arguable, as one of the earliest surviving records of horsemanship in Portugal was by Dom Duarte, a king who reigned briefly around 1280. His influeces are directly from Xenophon ("nothing forced is beautiful," etc). For the prior millennia, horsemanship had spread westward and then southward from the mongols. Islam had fantastic influence on architecture, math, language, music, and all aspects of culture, but horses were something more received for them. It has also not persisted, as outside buzkashi played by arabs and throughout central asia, their horse culture has not evolved. Especially not since the renaissance when the italian, and then french, and spanish high schools developed.

If horsemanship were indeed their advantage, the kingdom of Jerusalem could not have been established either. It's fashionable to say europe was uncivilized but for its invaders, but its horsemanship predates islamic invasions.

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, you all really do ride in "australian stock saddles" (interesting to see some had horns; have ropes been taking over from whips?) Sorry about the gall; normally the string girths are very good against that sort of thing. (it also struck me how often "proud" came up: my wife asks me "why do americans always have to be proud of things?" when she's watching TV, but maybe it's not just us seppos, but more a general…

> Lusitanian and hispanic horsemanship owes a lot to the moorish influence..., and therefore they do a lot more to put a handle on a horse This is arguable, as one of the earliest surviving records of horsemanship in Portugal was by Dom Duarte, a king who reigned briefly around 1280. His influeces are directly from Xenophon ("nothing forced is beautiful," etc). For the prior millennia, horsemanship had spread westwar…

I'll have to get a hold of a copy of Bennett, Conquerors: Roots of New World Horsemanship by Dr. Deb Bennett to check her arguments that Persian horsemanship[0] went both north around the Med (via Xenophon) and south (via the north Africans).

Certainly the Byerley Turk (1680s), the Darley Arabian (1704), and the Godolphin Arabian (1729) are some post-renaissance contributions to one[1] of my favourite breeds.

Lagniappe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darius_the_Great#Accession

Top dressing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfiTTyi2He8 (if my indoor were this small, I guess my stock would have to learn how to back out of the corners too?)

[0] steppe riding yields the jineta seat, but not the brida seat (which would have been useful for cataphracts?)

[1] pedantically: three, as I prefer racing quarters, etc.

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Lusitanian and hispanic horsemanship owes a lot to the moorish influence..., and therefore they do a lot more to put a handle on a horse This is arguable, as one of the earliest surviving records of horsemanship in Portugal was by Dom Duarte, a king who reigned briefly around 1280. His influeces are directly from Xenophon ("nothing forced is beautiful," etc). For the prior millennia, horsemanship had spread westwar…

I'll have to get a hold of a copy of Bennett, Conquerors: Roots of New World Horsemanship by Dr. Deb Bennett to check her arguments that Persian horsemanship[0] went both north around the Med (via Xenophon) and south (via the north Africans). Certainly the Byerley Turk (1680s), the Darley Arabian (1704), and the Godolphin Arabian (1729) are some post-renaissance contributions to one[1] of my favourite breeds. Lagniap…

Whether the moors included pre-Hellenistic Persians would be the crux of this statement, as typically that refers specifically to Islamic invaders almost a thousand years later whose architecture and culture influenced Iberian penninsula, and not to the whole African continent.

Breeding and horsemanship were also separate, as the modern school that survives today came via Grisone, Pignatelli, de Pluvinel, and eventually l'Hotte & Baucher, with not a lot of written innovation since. These are all european. However, to dresser means to be arranged and fit for a purpose, and arabian stock are used for arabian purposes. (https://youtu.be/D89RO-5oSeM?feature=shared) Personally, I prefer to ride.

Re: Chechnya bans music outside the range of 80-116 beats per minute

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To be precise - not Chechnya but Russian Republic of Chechnya under Russian puppet control. There was a moment after collapse of USSR when Chechnya was de facto independent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chechnya#Chechen_Wars_and_brie...

...until hastily degenerated into an ISIS-like stare and invaded Dagestan, lol.
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