What for? The market share of Google’s hardware is minuscule, and other Android OEMs are unable to take advantage of Google stuff since they use their own chips.
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> Conflict of interest is a human invention, and not a law of the universe. There is no "conflict" unless you see it as one. That could be said for anything in the moral and judicial sphere. "There's no theft, property is a human invention", "There's no rape, animals don't have that concept", and so on.
That's true, but there are good reasons for calling theft and rape crimes in civilization. Conflict of interest, on the other hand, was invented by some lawyer and HR types just to make life harder for the rest of us. I'm an optimistic engineer, believe in win-win situations, and don't see everything as a conflict.
Civilization is already an unnatural situation, in the sense that we have to coexist in groups (and with other groups) bigger than Dunbar's number.
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That's the situation NOW, but it can certainly change in the future. Work with Google as a hardware vendor, grow the Android market with them, and eventually they don't need you and cut you out. It happens.
An american company is never going to be able to produce phones as cheaply as a korean or a chinese company.
Further, much of android could be forked.
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
If there's accusation of misconduct, there's a bug in the system so you isolate it and investigate it from the outside. There's no investigation happening here, just two happy parties trying to create great products that can both be successful and be even happier. Lawyers can stay out of this happiness, inventing and injecting "conflicts" that never existed in the first place.
> If there's accusation of misconduct, there's a bug in the system so you isolate it and investigate it from the outside. Why should the investigation be from the outside?
Yep.
And in any case who (and by whom) is going to be assigned from outside to investigate any misconduct in this Google-other Android vendors case? Any misconduct of prioritizing their phones other third party hw in Android wouldn't be a crime, just a bad deal for the third party vendors.
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#105It seems like Google didn't learn the lesson from Google+ and is going to do another fear-driven reorg.
insightful comment. I'd like to think that Google will integrate AI in an at least mostly useful way, but it's clear that large scale reorgs like this around chasing a competitor can and do end badly.
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Correct, and it's clear that this isn't an outdated strategy from Google, just in the current cycle we saw Circle to Search launch on both Galaxy and Pixel, and most of the new AI stuff that differentiates Pixel is now coming to Galaxy as well. This might be a headscratcher if you think Google is trying to make Pixel the dominant Android phone, but that's not it. Google wants Android to be the dominant phone OS, and…
>as high as 80-90% of young people choosing iPhone It's not really choosing, it's more like being handed over form parents or being force to due to iMessage network effect with teens in the US. Which teens wants to choose to be left out of group conversations? As an adult you can give fewer fucks about normie conformism, bubble colors and people being petty over it, but as a teen it would be a death sentence for your…
> as a teen it would be a death sentence
No wonder teens these days have extremely high rates of anxiety & depression.
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If there's accusation of misconduct, there's a bug in the system so you isolate it and investigate it from the outside. Why should the investigation be from the outside?
Yep. And in any case who (and by whom) is going to be assigned from outside to investigate any misconduct in this Google-other Android vendors case? Any misconduct of prioritizing their phones other third party hw in Android wouldn't be a crime, just a bad deal for the third party vendors.
You haven't answered my question.
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#108Google is a one trick pony. I've seen the same panic behaviour with Social / Google Plus. Now they're doing nothing but AI.
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>as high as 80-90% of young people choosing iPhone It's not really choosing, it's more like being handed over form parents or being force to due to iMessage network effect with teens in the US. Which teens wants to choose to be left out of group conversations? As an adult you can give fewer fucks about normie conformism, bubble colors and people being petty over it, but as a teen it would be a death sentence for your…
> as a teen it would be a death sentence No wonder teens these days have extremely high rates of anxiety & depression.
Honestly it's weird how this is a thing in the US. In what I believe is most of the world, people just use WhatsApp, no sms, no iMessage.
Same is true for any demography as well. Maybe add some Instagram for the younger groups.
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
Correct, and it's clear that this isn't an outdated strategy from Google, just in the current cycle we saw Circle to Search launch on both Galaxy and Pixel, and most of the new AI stuff that differentiates Pixel is now coming to Galaxy as well. This might be a headscratcher if you think Google is trying to make Pixel the dominant Android phone, but that's not it. Google wants Android to be the dominant phone OS, and…
>as high as 80-90% of young people choosing iPhone It's not really choosing, it's more like being handed over form parents or being force to due to iMessage network effect with teens in the US. Which teens wants to choose to be left out of group conversations? As an adult you can give fewer fucks about normie conformism, bubble colors and people being petty over it, but as a teen it would be a death sentence for your…
I sure hope you're right!