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YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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post #97

I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up like prop 65 cancer warnings, or cookie banners. The intention might be to separate believable but low quality hallucinated AI content spam from high quality manual content. But it will backfire like prop 65. You'll see notices everywhere because increasingly AI will be used in all parts of the content creation pipeline. I see YouTube's own guidelines in the article and they se…

This is exactly what will happen, just like with cookie warnings, etc.

To be effective, warnings like this have to be MANDATED on the item in question, and FORBIDDEN when not present.

Otherwise you stick a prop 65 "may contain" warning on everything, and it's pointless.

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Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

#102
Going to be a long road with this kinda thing but forums and places I visit often already have "no AI submissions" type rules and they have been received pretty well that I've seen.

Are they capable of enforcing it? I don't know, but it's clear users understand / don't like the idea of being awash in a sea of AI content at this point.

If they can actually avoid it remains to be seen.

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

#104

If it's realistic who will know?

>If it's realistic who will know?

Look at "realistic" photos , it is easy for someone with experience to spot issues, the hangs/fingers are wrong, shadows and light are wrong, hair is weird, eyes have issues. In a video there are much more information so much more places to get things wrong, making it pass this kind of test will be a huge job so many will not put the effort.

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

#105
post #97

I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up like prop 65 cancer warnings, or cookie banners. The intention might be to separate believable but low quality hallucinated AI content spam from high quality manual content. But it will backfire like prop 65. You'll see notices everywhere because increasingly AI will be used in all parts of the content creation pipeline. I see YouTube's own guidelines in the article and they se…

This is exactly what will happen, just like with cookie warnings, etc. To be effective, warnings like this have to be MANDATED on the item in question, and FORBIDDEN when not present. Otherwise you stick a prop 65 "may contain" warning on everything, and it's pointless. (This post may have been generated by AI; this notice in compliance with AI notification complications.)

The "sponsored content" tag on youtube seems to work very well though. Most content creators don't want to label their videos sponsored unless they are, I assume the same goes for AI generated content flags. Why would a manual content creator want to add that?

> This post may have been generated by AI

I doubt "may" is enough.

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

#106

AI that is indistinguishable from reality is a certainty for the not-so-distant future. That future will come, and it will come sooner than anyone's expecting. Yet all I see is society trying to prevent the inevitable from installing itself (because it's "scary", "dangerous", "undermines the very pillars of society" etc.), instead of preparing itself for when the inevitable occurs. People seem to have finally accepte…

Forgive me on an initial reading, it is hard to have a nuanced discussion on this stuff without coming off like an uncaring caricature of one of two stereotypes, or look like you're attacking your interlocutor. When I'm writing these out, it's free association like I'm writing a diary entry, not as a critique of your well-reasoned and 100% accurate take.

Personal thoughts:

- we're already a year past the point where it was widely known you can generate whatever you want, and get it to a reasonable "real" threshold with less than a day worth of work.

- the impact is likely to be significantly muted, rather than an exponential increase upon, a 2020 baseline. professionals were capable of accomplishing this with a couple orders of magnitude more manual work for at least a decade.

- in general, we've suffered more societally from histrionics/over-reactions to being bombarded with the same messaging

- it thus should end up being _net good_, in that a skeptic has a 100% accurate argument for requiring more explanation than "wow look at this!"

- I expect that being able to justify / source / explain things will gain significant value relative to scaled up distributors giving out media someone else gave them without any review.

- something I've noticed the last couple years is people __hate__ looking stupid. __Hate__. They learn extremely quickly to refactor knowledge they think they have once confronted in public, even by the outgroup, as long as theyre a non-extremist.

After writing that out, I guess my tl;Dr as of this moment and mood, is there will be negligible negative effects, we already reached a nadir of unquestioned BS sometime between 2010 and 2024, and a baseline be _anyone_ can easily BS will lead to wide acceptance of skeptical reactions, even within ingroups.

God I hope I'm right.

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

#107
post #97

I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up like prop 65 cancer warnings, or cookie banners. The intention might be to separate believable but low quality hallucinated AI content spam from high quality manual content. But it will backfire like prop 65. You'll see notices everywhere because increasingly AI will be used in all parts of the content creation pipeline. I see YouTube's own guidelines in the article and they se…

This is exactly what will happen, just like with cookie warnings, etc. To be effective, warnings like this have to be MANDATED on the item in question, and FORBIDDEN when not present. Otherwise you stick a prop 65 "may contain" warning on everything, and it's pointless. (This post may have been generated by AI; this notice in compliance with AI notification complications.)

> To be effective, warnings like this have to be MANDATED on the item in question, and FORBIDDEN when not present.

I think for it to be effective you'd have to require them to provide an itemized list of WHAT is AI generated. Otherwise what if a content creator has a GenAI logo or feature that's in every video and put a lazy disclaimer.

> (This post may have been generated by AI; this notice in compliance with AI notification complications.)

:D

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

#108
post #97

I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up like prop 65 cancer warnings, or cookie banners. The intention might be to separate believable but low quality hallucinated AI content spam from high quality manual content. But it will backfire like prop 65. You'll see notices everywhere because increasingly AI will be used in all parts of the content creation pipeline. I see YouTube's own guidelines in the article and they se…

This may be a good thing, as it could teach the public some skills for identifying whether or not content has been AI generated.

Eventually, it may be completely indiscernible, but we aren’t there yet

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

#109

They don't bother to mention it, but this is actually to comply with the the new EU AI act. > Providers will also have to ensure that AI-generated content is identifiable. Besides, AI-generated text published with the purpose to inform the public on matters of public interest must be labelled as artificially generated. This also applies to audio and video content constituting deep fakes https://digital-strategy.ec.eu…

I have a more entertaining: "typical google, getting somebody else to give them training data in exchnage for free hosting of some sort"

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

#110
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"You have to tell people if you're lying" isn't a stupid rule because lying is good, it's a stupid rule because liars can lie about lying and proving it was the original problem.

The problem is that there wasn't a rule that could be used to take a misleading video down. Now there is. Finding out a video is maliciously fabricated is a different problem.

> The problem is that there wasn't a rule that could be used to take a misleading video down.

Of course there was. The community guidelines have prohibited impersonation and misinformation for years.

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