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Why are most sofas so bad?

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Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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The cookie popup of this site is some dark design to behold, I have to say. You need to disable every single "goal" one by one - once you have figured out this is the least worst option. You can otherwise disable the 1400 partners one by one.

This is completely illegal in Europe and I think it's illegal to serve this UI to an EU IP, even for non-EU websites.

Anyway, who cares, it's almost funny what lengths they go to to get you to accept cookies.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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The cookie popup of this site is some dark design to behold, I have to say. You need to disable every single "goal" one by one - once you have figured out this is the least worst option. You can otherwise disable the 1400 partners one by one. This is completely illegal in Europe and I think it's illegal to serve this UI to an EU IP, even for non-EU websites. Anyway, who cares, it's almost funny what lengths they go t…

I surf things like this in incognito mode or Firefox focus, can’t I safely accept all cookies and move on as they will be nuked in next session?

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For some reason people hate IKEA in the US. Was trying to sell a standing desk I bought there for 750$ and nobody wanted it. Ended up selling it for 150$. I also had a Jarvis and it was gone in an instant, even though the IKEA one was much much better. I Often hear people saying that IKEA furnitures don’t travel well or don’t last long. It’s like we’re not going to the same IKEA.

Back in 2012 I furnished a home with Ikea furniture. Yes I hate them. You'd spend $60 on a book case and spend the next 4 hours trying to understand what the instructions mean and how to build it. You also needed a partner to hold corners together. Now today, the furniture instructions are better and instead 16 different weird fastener, there are 8. Its a frustration thing. Ikea didn't really do anything but be low c…

I think this every time I built something ikea, then I build something from another brand and I discover a new abyss, then I go back to ikea. It's a cycle.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Although the furniture quality is excellent, I worry about supporting child labor when doing business with the Amish. They pull their kids out of school after grade 8 to put them to work. I've also heard various things regarding the commonality of abusive practices within their religion. Trade-offs for everything!

"supporting child labor" From their point of view, the modern society may be needlessly infantilizing people who are halfway to adulthood. We even treat university students like kids, hence all the obsession with micromanaging their campus experience.

Child labor seems a bit more serious a concern.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

#105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Although the furniture quality is excellent, I worry about supporting child labor when doing business with the Amish. They pull their kids out of school after grade 8 to put them to work. I've also heard various things regarding the commonality of abusive practices within their religion. Trade-offs for everything!

"supporting child labor" From their point of view, the modern society may be needlessly infantilizing people who are halfway to adulthood. We even treat university students like kids, hence all the obsession with micromanaging their campus experience.

There's a big range between 8 year old and average first year university student...

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

#106
post #46

I hear this a lot, but my fairly inexpensive IKEA sofa is about eight years old with no problems at all so far. EDIT: Actually, in general I've found that my IKEA furniture has done pretty well (basically everything in the house is IKEA) with the sole exception of a "Lack" coffee table, whose surface is kinda disintegrating after 8 years (I think it's basically made of cardboard with a veneer...). The name should per…

For some reason people hate IKEA in the US. Was trying to sell a standing desk I bought there for 750$ and nobody wanted it. Ended up selling it for 150$. I also had a Jarvis and it was gone in an instant, even though the IKEA one was much much better. I Often hear people saying that IKEA furnitures don’t travel well or don’t last long. It’s like we’re not going to the same IKEA.

$750 for an IKEA desk is crazy money. Does it have hydraulics to raise and lower the desk?

But depreciation on IKEA is huge because while it can last a long time within a household, it moves very poorly so if it has been moved or reassembled once or twice, it’s likely near end of life. But hard to evaluate that, it’s not like it has an odometer — hence value for used it very low.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

#107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Back in 2012 I furnished a home with Ikea furniture. Yes I hate them. You'd spend $60 on a book case and spend the next 4 hours trying to understand what the instructions mean and how to build it. You also needed a partner to hold corners together. Now today, the furniture instructions are better and instead 16 different weird fastener, there are 8. Its a frustration thing. Ikea didn't really do anything but be low c…

I think this every time I built something ikea, then I build something from another brand and I discover a new abyss, then I go back to ikea. It's a cycle.

Agreed, self assembly is terrible but IKEA is generally the least terrible.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

#108
post #53

About 10 years ago I went shopping at Furnitureland South, mentioned in the article. The selection was a bit overwhelming, but we picked out a solid wood bedroom set from a manufacturer in Canada. It's held up great, as has my kids' IKEA bedroom furniture. I've purchased couches from West Elm, Restoration Hardware, and a few other well-known places, and they've all been disappointing. From now on I'll stick to Furnit…

Our kids destroy all the nice furniture (dumb ways, like sitting on couch soaking wet from the pool, spilling food, drawing on the cushion while doing homework or a project, doing gymnastics off the cushions, fort building). They aren’t actively destructive like attacking with scissors but I can’t see investing in nice furniture until they are adults (even teens can be rough as you can imagine). By then, I don’t know if I’ll care?

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"supporting child labor" From their point of view, the modern society may be needlessly infantilizing people who are halfway to adulthood. We even treat university students like kids, hence all the obsession with micromanaging their campus experience.

There's a big range between 8 year old and average first year university student...

" after grade 8 " (the OPs concern) is more like 15 y.o., right?

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

#110
post #79

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Yeah. Even at the time we knew West Elm wasn't high end, but we were at least expecting decent. We know more now (and could afford better) whenever we have to finally replace this, but $2000 is a not-insignificant investment that shouldn't be a complete piece of crap.

My problem is that I don’t even know where to buy _good_ stuff. I don’t want to pay $5k for a couch, but maybe I will _once_ in N years, for some large N, if I know it’s very well made and I like the design. But I have no idea where to go for this. The overlap between junk and luxury is too large nowadays.

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