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Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU

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Re: Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU

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post #74

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What's malicious about that? That the warning is designed to be ignored? If they deleted the warning, would that be much different?

The same reason it’s frowned upon to install random apps from the internet onto your PC. It’s a disaster waiting to happen.

Mobile OSes are not the same as windows or even Mac.

Re: Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU

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> Web Distribution, available with a software update later this spring, will let authorized developers distribute their iOS apps to EU users directly from a website owned by the developer. iPhone users don't really own their own device, do they...

I don't. This is a stark realisation that I have had over the past few years. I would once staunchly recommend iPhones for their strong security, in particular app isolation, on-device AI, and physical device security.

However, over the years there have been more and more instances where Apple decides what I can do with my phone. From restricting APIs to give their first-party apps advantage, to, most recently, not having any (local) method to move voice memos off my Apple Watch.

I've realised they are orchestrating their hardware and software to build a truly solid wall from within which they can extract continuous rent from their captives.

I don't own my device because I cannot freely run the software I create on it (without paying Apple and gaining their approval, which is impossible in some cases).

I'm done with Apple... but there are no acceptable alternatives. Android is bad in other aspects.

This is not a free and fair market; it's a duopoly.

I genuinely pray weekly for a phone like the Framework Laptop, where I can run my own software (Arch Linux) and repair and replace the hardware as needed.

Re: Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU

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post #93

What the hell is going on at Apple? It's starting to become really funny to see one obviously non-compliant malicious compliance attempt being made after another. Do they really not understand that they're no longer involved in the relationships between users and developers?

They are deeply involved. If it’s that bad for developers, drop the iPhone and develop solely for Android.

Developers need the iPhone and Apple needs developers.

Re: Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just the size requirement makes it useless, why would anybody bother with a web distribution if they already have 1 million (!) installs on the appstore where they already have all their customers?

The front runners for doing this would probably be Google and Meta. Large companies that publish several ad-supported apps. Side stepping the App Store would let them revert Apple’s privacy protections for tracking However, I believe another statute of Apple’s implementation is that developers must pick. App Store or Self Distribution— an app cannot be both

If you really have to pay a fee per install, ad-supported apps are probably the worst candidates to go standalone in my opinion. Those don't get much money per user.

Re: Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU

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Apple is still non-compliant with the requirements of the DMA, especially in regards to Article 6(7), which provides:

"The gatekeeper shall allow business users and alternative providers of services provided together with, or in support of, core platform services, free of charge, effective interoperability with, and access for the purposes of interoperability to, the same operating system, hardware or software features, regardless of whether those features are part of the operating system, as are available to, or used by, that gatekeeper when providing such services."

This means the Core Technology Fee is per-se illegal.

The only exception to the provision is security, so Apple can probably demand notarization of IPA files (although maybe not really, since Android does not enforce that at all and the sky hasn't fallen over there) but the requirement that the developer already be in good standing and have 2 million app downloads is insane and non-compliant too.

Re: Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU

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> Web Distribution, available with a software update later this spring, will let authorized developers distribute their iOS apps to EU users directly from a website owned by the developer. iPhone users don't really own their own device, do they...

I don't. This is a stark realisation that I have had over the past few years. I would once staunchly recommend iPhones for their strong security, in particular app isolation, on-device AI, and physical device security. However, over the years there have been more and more instances where Apple decides what I can do with my phone. From restricting APIs to give their first-party apps advantage, to, most recently, not h…

I assume you're aware and have some other reason that disqualifies it (e.g. you're in the US), but Fairphone does exist and comes pretty close (i.e. PostmarketOS is supposed to run, at least): https://www.fairphone.com/

Re: Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU

#108

Oh man Apple is finally getting a feature Android had for 10+ years! Maybe in like 20 years iphones will finally have the features a $100 android has and will be up to bare basic standards. I def look sideways at people who buy a used $300 iphone when you can get a safer, higher quality, more feature phone with more for $150. This is different from someone buying Nike Jordans because they are status insecure, because…

You shouldn’t let people’s decisions around phone purchases bother you

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Re: Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU

#109
i don't understand how the EU didn't put up a very simple rule : users owns their phones and should be able to install any software they want without apple putting artificial restrictions or gateways exclusivity. Period.

That should remove all the possibilities of apple trying to find the loopholes with shit measures such as those "options".

Re: Apple announces ability to download apps directly from websites in EU

#110
My tolerance for Apple's walled garden expired with what they've pulled in reaction to the Digital Markets Act. It's become blatant (to me) they are landlords of their digital empire seeking to squeeze rent from everyone. I wouldn't mind paying for their expensive and yet still-profitable hardware if not for the antics they pull on the software side.

Everyone should be able to run whatever legally-obtained program they have on their device without needing to pay someone, and without needing the permission of someone else.

In my opinion, that should be law. (I think that would be net-beneficial to society and so worth the restriction on profits for a couple of humongous companies or whatever.)

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