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V Language Review (2023)

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Re: V Language Review (2023)

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Post by dang »

ylluminate wrote: post #87
lerno wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then again, out of the C alternative languages Zig, Odin and C3 - Zig’s always been the one with the most open bugs despite (or due to?) having by far the most amount of people working on it. Ironic now when the compiler is written in Zig considering how Zig is advertising itself as being better at stability and reliability than C/C++ (the C3 compiler is written in C and Odin’s compiler is a C-like C++)

Zig, similar to Rust, is like crawling into a syntax dumpster fire. Ugh. Give me C any day if I didn't have a choice for better options.

Please don't post flamewar comments to HN. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

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Re: V Language Review (2023)

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Post by epolanski »

avgcorrection wrote: post #97
epolanski wrote: post #34

I'm awed at how far people would go both in studying, analyzing and writing about a language they clearly dislike.

Oh no. Someone had the grit to document their experiences with a technology that they dislike and share it with us. What a tragedy. Most people don’t have the energy for that and just move on. Which doesn’t help others.

I didn't think badly of it, I was awed by how deep and thorough it was.

Re: V Language Review (2023)

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Post by avgcorrection »

epolanski wrote: post #102
avgcorrection wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh no. Someone had the grit to document their experiences with a technology that they dislike and share it with us. What a tragedy. Most people don’t have the energy for that and just move on. Which doesn’t help others.

I didn't think badly of it, I was awed by how deep and thorough it was.

Sorry. I interpreted it as “if you got nothing nice to say…”

Re: V Language Review (2023)

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Post by ylluminate »

dang wrote: post #101
ylluminate wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zig, similar to Rust, is like crawling into a syntax dumpster fire. Ugh. Give me C any day if I didn't have a choice for better options.

Please don't post flamewar comments to HN. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Why? Most of HN is just flame wars. Please stop being a hypocrite. This is disgusting behavior.

Re: V Language Review (2023)

#107

Post by dang »

ylluminate wrote: post #106
dang wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't post flamewar comments to HN. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Why? Most of HN is just flame wars. Please stop being a hypocrite. This is disgusting behavior.

Since you don't want to use HN as intended, I've banned the account.

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Re: V Language Review (2023)

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Post by baranul »

chrisaycock wrote: post #7

Some highlights: - autofree doesn't work - memory arenas (prealloc) isn't thread safe - compiler produces large binaries - coroutines invoke blocking calls - community behavior is, uh, "unwelcoming"

Their site is clearly showing the language is in beta. The V documentation also states that autofree is WIP, and to use the GC instead. This isn't a corporate created language, but looks to be a true volunteer open source effort from people around the world.

Their community, in comparison to others, even has their discussions open and open threads for criticism. Example.

[1]https://github.com/vlang/v/discussions/7610

Re: V Language Review (2023)

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Post by baranul »

ianthehenry wrote: post #62

Can someone explain the backstory of what V is and why someone took the time to write this? To the uninitiated this sounds like someone criticizing some kid’s side project. I’m picking up some context clues that V is widely used / famous / notable / significant somehow, but the only time I have ever heard of it before this is Xe Iaso’s similarly negative posts. Did V receive some huge funding grant that made it the t…

"Sounds like someone criticizing some kid’s side project."

That's a really big "kid's side project". Looking at V's GitHub stats:

35.2k Stars

722 Contributors

2.1k Forks

Re: V Language Review (2023)

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Post by baranul »

nbittich wrote: post #49

Interesting article, except I didn't like the last part. It sounded too personal. I would have preferred if OP had kept a neutral tone and allowed the reader to make their own opinion.

Agree with your assessment. Things about this seems way too personal, unknowns involved, or very clear ties back to its competition. A good review should be from known persons, who are actual neutral 3rd parties.

Possibly some are:

[1] Is V Lang Better Than Go And Rust? Let's Find Out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puy77WfM1Tg

[2] V - Best Programming Language to Learn in 2023?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr1EBaLkjfc

[3] First Impression - V programming language

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmVKerNY-fQ

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