I tried it, it's fairly good, solves a lot of the issues of not knowing the context that chat is using, but so far the responses are super lengthy. Sometimes they are even longer than the article itself haha
Brave's AI assistant now integrates with PDFs and Google Drive
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Re: Brave's AI assistant now integrates with PDFs and Google Drive
#102Unrelated but about Brave and interesting to me: I recently found myself having a large upstream project that I need to maintain some custom patches for, and there's a need for deeper customizations and I worry that my rudimentary system of applying .patch files will turn into an unmaintainable nightmare of merge conflicts after every rebase. I was thinking about possible solutions, and it occurred to me that Brave b…
Something I would like to mention, as a dev on Brave, is that patches are considered a last resort. If there are patches, we try to keep them lightweight - like patch to have Chromium create the Brave version of the object (something we can restrict to one line). What you'll notice more often is a folder we have called `chromium_src`. This directory mirrors the directory structure for Chromium under `src` and the bui…
Thank you! I really appreciate the info :-)
Re: Brave's AI assistant now integrates with PDFs and Google Drive
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
The browser will be even less under our control than before, surveillance will go to the next level, and your private data will land in even more obscure places than before. Ridiculous maybe, but by no means pointless. “AI” will be the end of ad blockers and a whole host of measures to secure a remnant of privacy on the net.
> “AI” will be the end of ad blockers... On the contrary, I feel like AI--even if it doesn't advance much further than the level we already have achieved--is putting us at the cusp of finally being able to have good end-game fully-working ad blockers: I'll just have an AI in my browser read / look at / watch / "experience" your content and then launder away any and all ads in its presentation to me... I can even have…
>: I'll just have an AI in my browser read / look at / watch / "experience" your content and then launder away any and all ads in its presentation to me... I can even have it make extreme edits if required, rebuilding the audio and video, to remove subtle bias your content wants to infect me with due to sponsorship deals.
Ehh sure, but then websites have no incentive whatsoever to publish content. The future you're describing is one where:
- Only the big players operate (more centralized)
- Only walled gardens, because who would publish content publicly for everyone to ingest and then modify, with no gain whatsoever?
- More arms race to create DRM to prevent ad blockers, or deals with browsers not to tamper with specific sites (so, more centralization)
What you're proposing makes no sense, and will only deteriorate things further in the long run.
Re: Brave's AI assistant now integrates with PDFs and Google Drive
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your "end-game" AI tool sounds good, and would work I think, but I think the opposing endgame strategy for advertisers is fully verified DRM chain all the way from incoming network packets to the display's pixels. Network -> Web Environment Integrity -> HDCP. No room in there for an AI middleman. :(
While I clearly generally do agree with you--this is why I have that second paragraph about pervasive DRM being the enemy here--and have spent much of my life fighting DRM in various ways, I will at least try to offer you a ray of hope: building functional DRM gets much harder as the analog loophole gets stronger, and now that we are nearly at (not quite, but so damned close to) being able to strap a "retina" screen…
What do you mean that the analog loophole gets stronger? Are you saying that the AR technology is getting good enough that ad-blocking can be done there instead? That's true, I guess.
Re: Brave's AI assistant now integrates with PDFs and Google Drive
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I clearly generally do agree with you--this is why I have that second paragraph about pervasive DRM being the enemy here--and have spent much of my life fighting DRM in various ways, I will at least try to offer you a ray of hope: building functional DRM gets much harder as the analog loophole gets stronger, and now that we are nearly at (not quite, but so damned close to) being able to strap a "retina" screen…
What do you mean that the analog loophole gets stronger? Are you saying that the AR technology is getting good enough that ad-blocking can be done there instead? That's true, I guess.
The analog loophole is the idea that I can always just use a camera and/or a microphone to record any content I want to pirate, rather than rip the original exact digital bits. The reason why this resulted in low quality results in the past is that cameras and microphones lose fidelity of the original source... but the technology behind cameras and microphones just gets better over time, and there is only so good that the original digital content with the original hardware playing to the human perception system was going to be in the first place, so if you point a good enough camera at a video and re-render it on a high-quality enough display you don't care that it goes through that analog step anymore, making DRM implemented inside of display protocols meaningless (and yes: opening the door to using the analog loophole to pirate and then modify/remix everything you see and experience in real time using AR).
Re: Brave's AI assistant now integrates with PDFs and Google Drive
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
> “AI” will be the end of ad blockers... On the contrary, I feel like AI--even if it doesn't advance much further than the level we already have achieved--is putting us at the cusp of finally being able to have good end-game fully-working ad blockers: I'll just have an AI in my browser read / look at / watch / "experience" your content and then launder away any and all ads in its presentation to me... I can even have…
>: I'll just have an AI in my browser read / look at / watch / "experience" your content and then launder away any and all ads in its presentation to me... I can even have it make extreme edits if required, rebuilding the audio and video, to remove subtle bias your content wants to infect me with due to sponsorship deals. Ehh sure, but then websites have no incentive whatsoever to publish content. The future you're d…
I not only do understand that DRM is what fights against ad blockers and would inherently be expanded (and that that would suck), that was my point: remember that I was responding to someone who was anti-AI as they felt AI marks the end of ad blockers, and yet I think the opposite is true. The consequences of these wars playing out in either direction and whether you like the result is a different scope, one where I don't even disagree with much of what you are saying...
...with two (small) exceptions: you fail to analyze a world where we all end up having to just pay for content as we access it--which is what I want: I also pay for all of the electricity I use and somehow the world doesn't end in the hell people insist microtransactions would cause--and (as I detail in another comment in this thread) I think technological solutions to DRM actually will have a hard time winning vs. AR passthrough ad block technology (though I then think the DRM war continues using legal means like expansions of Section 1201 to make it further illegal to traffic in circumvention tech... which is also bad).
Re: Brave's AI assistant now integrates with PDFs and Google Drive
#107The first browser to index (locally preferably) my browsing history and help me extract/surface useful information from previous pages I have visited will win me over. So far they all seem to be offering the same kind of AI that will crawl the current page and extract information from it.
I swear, Safari used to have a feature like this back in version 4. You could search for text in your history, not just titles/URLs.
Re: Brave's AI assistant now integrates with PDFs and Google Drive
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
I really don't get this hate Brave gets on HN and other tech forums. It's a de-Googled Chromium fork which retains support for Manifest v2 extensions and has a bunch of neat extra features like first-party ad-blocking, an (underused and probably at this point should be considered a failed experiment) advertising network where users are paid for the ads they consume, Tor-integration, Web3 integrations. Yes, it default…
> "I really don't get this hate Brave gets on HN and other tech forums" Eich bad
That's the main reason. Everything else is mostly post-facto justification.
Incidentally, that was also the event that seemed to start Firefox's long decay.
Re: Brave's AI assistant now integrates with PDFs and Google Drive
#109Unrelated but about Brave and interesting to me: I recently found myself having a large upstream project that I need to maintain some custom patches for, and there's a need for deeper customizations and I worry that my rudimentary system of applying .patch files will turn into an unmaintainable nightmare of merge conflicts after every rebase. I was thinking about possible solutions, and it occurred to me that Brave b…
I don't know why they went with patch files instead of forking chromium and rebasing the changes via git. They document how developers should "rebase" chromium: https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/wiki/Chromium-rebases... And it looks like way more work than doing it with git via git rebase chromium/master
Because `git rebase` is a heap of crap
Re: Brave's AI assistant now integrates with PDFs and Google Drive
#110Everyone seems to use LLMs the wrong way. Instead of using them to do useful work (for example: static code analysis with automatic fixing of found bugs, writing high-quality documentation), they create useless dumb chatbots. Waiting for someone to integrate a chatbot into a calculator.
The last things I'd want an AI to do is "fixing" bugs, closely followed by writing documentation. It will confidently make things worse and break them.