I believe they are part of the recently setup homesteading program similar to what Alaska setup in the 80s. If they can put a stake in the ground they get 20 acres around the stake.
Private company landing on the moon today
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Re: Private company landing on the moon today
#102https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intuitive_Machines_Nova-C#Eagl... : “EagleCam to record lunar landing Just before landing, at approximately 30 m (98 ft) above the lunar surface, the Odysseus lander will eject the EagleCam camera-equipped CubeSat, which will drop onto the lunar surface near the lander, with an impact velocity of about 10 m/s (22 mph). From the surface the EagleCam will attempt to capture the first third…
I always assumed that space was noisy enough that things like wifi wouldn't work on the lunar surface.
Re: Private company landing on the moon today
#103https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intuitive_Machines_Nova-C#Eagl... : “EagleCam to record lunar landing Just before landing, at approximately 30 m (98 ft) above the lunar surface, the Odysseus lander will eject the EagleCam camera-equipped CubeSat, which will drop onto the lunar surface near the lander, with an impact velocity of about 10 m/s (22 mph). From the surface the EagleCam will attempt to capture the first third…
The simplest way to do it is probably just to have a high quality 360 camera, that way you mostly get around the problem of orientation
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
But observations need powerful domestic telescopes. If you're NASA, you own and have access to them.
No, as an American, you own them. NASA just administrates them for you. If you're a space faring private company, you contract out the various parts of the mission. You didn't build a rocket, you hired SpaceX. You didn't build the relay network, you licensed access time. You don't build a space observation platform, you license time to use them.
If I owned them, I would get to use them. I don’t, so logically I must not.
By this logic, there are huge amounts of land that I also “own” that guys with M16s (or, more accurately, M4s) will keep me from walking on if I try to go there. Half the year I live in southern Nevada, so this distinction has some direct practical consequences in my life.
It’s deceptive. Government property is not owned by citizens, it is under the exclusive control of the state—i.e. not you.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
There was (or still is?) the abortion bounty-hunter law which would allow any private citizen in Texas to sue him if he did what you are proposing. There were also some counties that made it illegal to use their roads to transport someone for the purpose of getting an abortion. In Texas, there is a clear push to criminalize the act of going out of state to get an abortion.
Seems like laws against crossing state lines for a medical procedure wouldn't withstand a legal challenge because it involves out-of-state commerce. I'm not a lawyer, but that intervention seems to be aggressive and exactly the place courts/congress would step in. Also, in a scenario where it would does hold up, then CA/NY would start doing the same w/gun stuff. And then FL/TX would respond with something else agains…
Having to participate in an ugly, media-circus-y court fight while also going through a medical procedure/emergency does not sound like a fun time. Unless you have a big appetite for drama and hardship, living in a red state is a really bad idea if you have a chance of becoming pregnant, intentionally or unintentionally.
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#107Curious question: as a private company, how do you determine your lunar orbit parameters after a burn? Are they leveraging Earth/orbit-based radar? Or satellites around the moon? Or something else?
Ground infrastructure is important for space missions. Intuitive Machines is operating under a NASA contract for Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) [1]. As such, they can negotiate access to NASA resources such as DSN and NEN for this mission. Intuitive Machines has also built several ground stations of their own [2]. These allow communications with the spacecraft as well as the range/velocity measurements need…
Thanks for these great details. Is there a fee for using the NASA resources (I assume there is, I just don't know how this works)?
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, as an American, you own them. NASA just administrates them for you. If you're a space faring private company, you contract out the various parts of the mission. You didn't build a rocket, you hired SpaceX. You didn't build the relay network, you licensed access time. You don't build a space observation platform, you license time to use them.
If I owned them, I would get to use them. I don’t, so logically I must not. By this logic, there are huge amounts of land that I also “own” that guys with M16s (or, more accurately, M4s) will keep me from walking on if I try to go there. Half the year I live in southern Nevada, so this distinction has some direct practical consequences in my life. It’s deceptive. Government property is not owned by citizens, it is un…
You conveniently left out the part of licensing the time. You can license with the BLM for access to government control land. Ranchers do it all the time. Special events like Burning Man also do it. You just have to contact the correct agency to do it. But of course, it so much easier to make a know it all sarcastic filled internet rant than do anything approaching useful information to a conversation.
Re: Private company landing on the moon today
#109https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intuitive_Machines_Nova-C#Eagl... : “EagleCam to record lunar landing Just before landing, at approximately 30 m (98 ft) above the lunar surface, the Odysseus lander will eject the EagleCam camera-equipped CubeSat, which will drop onto the lunar surface near the lander, with an impact velocity of about 10 m/s (22 mph). From the surface the EagleCam will attempt to capture the first third…
I always assumed that space was noisy enough that things like wifi wouldn't work on the lunar surface.
If basic radio worked for talking between suits and the landing craft in '69, it surely shouldn't be a surprise that modern frequency-hopping, error corrected, wireless comms, with much more sensitive equipment would work well?
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#110Curious question: as a private company, how do you determine your lunar orbit parameters after a burn? Are they leveraging Earth/orbit-based radar? Or satellites around the moon? Or something else?
Ground infrastructure is important for space missions. Intuitive Machines is operating under a NASA contract for Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) [1]. As such, they can negotiate access to NASA resources such as DSN and NEN for this mission. Intuitive Machines has also built several ground stations of their own [2]. These allow communications with the spacecraft as well as the range/velocity measurements need…
You are awesome! Thanks for all the links and info, to an open-ended question.
The process of bootstrapping to Earth-space-parity is fascinating to me.
One thing in the 1960s, when there was no GPS and terrestrial net assumption, but now you're going from everything we've built here to... if you don't bring it, you don't have it.
The accretion of Mars support satellites has also been fascinating.