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Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

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Post by dns_snek »

medstrom wrote: post #97
dns_snek wrote: post #90

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Finding genuine product reviews is borderline impossible these days. Search results are usually just worthless affiliate link spam, even from supposed "reputable" outlets. Are there any other places on the internet that try to solve this problem in a way that can't be easily gamed by marketers?

At risk of throwing the baby out with the bathwater, think back to how you would've browsed the internet before Google. You probably would've grown your own web-directory of bookmarks, right? That's also how you explore the non-SEO-paved parts of the internet now. I haven't learned to find product reviews yet, but I imagine that a trick would be to know which forums to go for certain kinds of products, e.g. maybe htt…

Forums are a good one, but they're surprisingly hard to find these days. It really feels like we're back to word of mouth again.

This boardreader search engine sounds promising though! I'll give that a try next time I'm shopping in an unfamiliar market.

Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

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Post by [deleted] »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #41
terrycody wrote: post #17

Cache: directive is very useful for many circumstances, especially for information archiving purpose, what a shame Google even want to cancel it.

Any archival purposes should use the Internet Archive; Google's cache couldn't be counted on to remain present and unchanged, even before this. (The Internet Archive can't be counted on to remain unchanged either, but at least the Internet Archive will either remain unchanged or disappear, never change. I wish archive.org didn't auto-nuke entire sites based on robots.txt, because when domains disappear the domain squ…

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Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

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Post by sph »

zeroalpha wrote: post #98
sph wrote: post #81

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Yeah but they enshittified Reddit too, so many links are to "unreviewed" subreddits that force you to login. If it was not for Kagi putting some sanity back into search, Google and Reddit going to shit would have had me seriously reconsider this career and spending so much time online. I think it is abhorrent borderline criminal to place yourself at the centre of the Internet experience, and one day decide to make it…

Yeah exactly. Using reddit as a qualifier works only until everyone starts doing it. Thankfully for now we have old.reddit.com, until they deprecate that with some bullshit excuse in PR-english (who knows what will happen after the IPO). Then there's teddit, libreddit, etc., but they only work as long as reddit doesn't make a change. Feels like everything is a cat and mouse game these days.

teddit/libreddit are basically as good as dead after the API changes last summer. It's all gone to the dogs.

Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

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Post by frfl »

corgihamlet wrote: post #87
roshin wrote: post #57

I used to use it on some sites that would show different results to Google vs people. LinkedIn cache was disabled years ago, I guess it was just time until the rest would be. on a similar topic, does anyone know how to view LinkedIn without an account?

You could always make a fake account for LinkedIn.

I tried this. Account was blocked fairly quickly. I think they pattern match on activity and block such accounts automatically

Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

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Post by wyclif »

medstrom wrote: post #97
dns_snek wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Finding genuine product reviews is borderline impossible these days. Search results are usually just worthless affiliate link spam, even from supposed "reputable" outlets. Are there any other places on the internet that try to solve this problem in a way that can't be easily gamed by marketers?

At risk of throwing the baby out with the bathwater, think back to how you would've browsed the internet before Google. You probably would've grown your own web-directory of bookmarks, right? That's also how you explore the non-SEO-paved parts of the internet now. I haven't learned to find product reviews yet, but I imagine that a trick would be to know which forums to go for certain kinds of products, e.g. maybe htt…

I used AltaVista.

Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

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Post by worksonmine »

whamlastxmas wrote: post #68
archerx wrote: post #65

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I don’t even know what the point of using google search anymore is...

Appending site:Reddit.com to everything bc Reddit search sucks

You don't need google for that, Works with duckduckgo aswell.

Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

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Post by ravenstine »

rafark wrote: post #60
angry_octet wrote: post #6

The cache: qualifier does still work for me, but I fear it too is deprecated. Another incredible Google blunder. https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttp...

I have a feeling this has to do with AI and all the lawsuits regarding content and copyright, storing and displaying the contents of a third party website to the end user might not be the best idea right now (I know the way back machine exists but they’re not a for profit company like google).

I can picture future HN conversations now.

"It's a good thing copyright law exists to prevent AI from doing anything useful because I'm fearful of AI."

"Hey, does anyone know why the web has become so boring and useless???"

Who knows – maybe Google Search won't even show page descriptions in the coming years.

Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

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Post by refulgentis »

falsandtru wrote: post #36
refulgentis wrote: post #31

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I don't buy it, still accessible from translate.google.com, the Translate button in Chrome, etc. etc. Probably just a ham-fisted 'change for the sake of change thing'. """Reimagining""" search can often get boiled down to the least common agreeable set of things across 3000 people. This is "simplification"

Those don't work on PDFs.

Yes they do. Check again.

Re: Google search drops cache link from search results

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Post by superasn »

Alifatisk wrote: post #103

Bummer to see Google actually killing a good feature. Please take me back to Google 10 years ago when they actually had working products instead of experimenting with Ai.

Yes instead of making improvements to their product like removing spam sites like Pinterest, etc - they are actually killing the good features which gives Google edge over chatgpt. Not sure what the gameplan is here.
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