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John Deere Announces Strategic Partnership with SpaceX
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#102John Deere & SpaceX , a match made in hell. Hopefully the world will end before they spice up their marriage and extend the offer to Tesla. Technically it makes some sense, but most of the push is because for more "data, intelligence, cloud, AI" in order to get more "value" to big agrobusinesses or anyone who can pay to stay in the party. Agriculture is already a massive business only a few gigantic corporations can…
What's so great about a family farm? We're much better off without 90% of the population being poor, self-subsistence farmers.
This is where conventional poverty metrics can be extremely counterproductive. A subsistence farmer could be materially much better off than a homeless or low class person in the city, but superficial poverty metrics suggest the opposite because the farmer technically has no income while the homeless person has some amount of welfare support. Whether by accident or not, neoliberal economics says we need fewer farmers and more min wage serfs.
Besides, we live in the 21st century, it is possible to be both a remote subsistence farmer and an educated+connected person at the same time, and the efficiency of small scale farming can be massively boosted with the use of modern tech such as networked sensors, camera drones, AI, etc.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not really. Just like Tesla, you cannot use Deere' self driving system without someone there looking for safety issue. Musk's is clearly better at detecting and avoiding hazards - at least they try, while John Deere admits the system doesn't even try, it will just drive a line and if something is there kill it. The difference is John Deere's system is for use in a field where there is essentially never anything to hi…
My comment was a bit tongue-in-cheek. I know Deere has a different and easier problem set to address. However, auto-steer and similar tech have been working well on tractors for a long time.
I just fear people who mostly don't know what is going on will read too much into the claim. while your claim is technically correct, it is very misleading to the average person.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
Farmers do not want that. John Deere collects a lot of opt-in data from tractors. That is the owner of the tractors chooses to upload that data because they get value from it. If the tractor is not online or the GPS isn't working the farmer will stay home to fix things as the data is too valuable to risk not having it uploaded. (you can export the data to USB, but that is a hassle). Farmers who don't get a good cell…
Lol farmers absolutely want their tractor to work when the cell network doesn't what are you talking about. Sounds like you might have drank a little too much of the company koolaid. It's not surprising, I know engineers at Deere and it sounds like quite a toxic environment.
nobody said that farmers don't want their tractors to work when the cell network doesn't.
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#106I naively thought this would be about moon tractors.
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#107When they say > agreement with SpaceX to provide cutting-edge satellite communications (SATCOM) service to farmers surely they really mean > agreement with SpaceX to provide cutting-edge satellite communications (SATCOM) service to John Deere
I thought John Deere was going to send tractors to Mars.
Space tractors was my first mental pictures as well.
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#108For all the negative comments, think of the huge value this will have to improving life in countries where farming is not some pastoralized, romantic fantasy. The amount of food we have to grow is staggering. The alternative is continuing to prop up the economic disparity where first world HN posters rely on third world family farmers who would rather send their kids to college. Yes, you should be able to grow your o…
That value should not be siphoned out by corporations though. Let tractor companies simply build tractors, and if their users want to be able to repair them they should provide that.
Re: John Deere Announces Strategic Partnership with SpaceX
#109John Deere & SpaceX , a match made in hell. Hopefully the world will end before they spice up their marriage and extend the offer to Tesla. Technically it makes some sense, but most of the push is because for more "data, intelligence, cloud, AI" in order to get more "value" to big agrobusinesses or anyone who can pay to stay in the party. Agriculture is already a massive business only a few gigantic corporations can…
What's so great about a family farm? We're much better off without 90% of the population being poor, self-subsistence farmers.
The thing is research tend to show pre industrial revolution poor farmers had a better time than our modern poors. Unless we consider owning lots of gadgets makes someone rich
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I can’t drive to work, I won’t be paid, i’ll lose all my income. Thus, somehow the car company should prevent me from repairing my car, working with any independent qualified garage?
They tried. Independent auto repair shops across the country sued and lobbied to save their businesses. "On the last day of California's legislative session in 2000, Governor Gray Davis signed into law what had come to be known as "OBD-II." The new law expanded the OBD service information requirements in California by directing car companies to make all manuals and technical service bulletins Internet-accessible, sup…
EVs are currently exempt from this!
We need OBD regulations to be updated for reflect these new technologies. I think hydrogen vehicles are also exempt.