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Re: Meta AI releases Code Llama 70B

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Quantization is highly effective at reducing memory and storage requirements, and it barely has any impact on quality (unless you take it to the extreme). Approximately no one should ever be running the full fat fp16 models during inference of any of these LLMs. That would be incredibly inefficient. I run 33B parameter models on my RTX 3090 (24GB VRAM) no problem. 70B should easily fit into 64GB of RAM.

I'm aware but is it still LLaMA 70B at that point?

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Given how good some of the smaller code models are (such as Deepseek Coder at 6.7B), I'll be curious to see what this 70B model is capable of!

AlphaCodium is the newest kid on the block that's SoTA pass@5 on coding tasks (authors claim at least 2x better than GPT4): https://github.com/Codium-ai/AlphaCodium As for small models, Microsoft has been making noise with the unreleased WaveCoder-Ultra-6.7b ( https://arxiv.org/abs/2312.14187 ).

AlphaCodium author says he should have used DSPy

https://twitter.com/talrid23/status/1751663363216580857

Re: Meta AI releases Code Llama 70B

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AlphaCodium is the newest kid on the block that's SoTA pass@5 on coding tasks (authors claim at least 2x better than GPT4): https://github.com/Codium-ai/AlphaCodium As for small models, Microsoft has been making noise with the unreleased WaveCoder-Ultra-6.7b ( https://arxiv.org/abs/2312.14187 ).

Are weights available?

AlphaCodium is more of a prompt engineering / flow engineering strategy, so it can be used with existing models.

Re: Meta AI releases Code Llama 70B

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Llama is getting better and better, I heard this and Llama 3 will start to be good as GPT-4. Who would have thought that Meta, that has been chucking billions on the metaverse is on the forefront of Open Source AI. Not to mention their stock is up and they are worth $1TN, again. Not sure how I feel about this given the fact of all the scandals that have plagued them and the massive 1BN fine from the EU, Cambridge Ana…

Cambridge Analytica is not a real scandal (did not affect any elections), and FB did not cause a genocide in Myanmar (they were a popular message board during a genocide, which is not the same thing)

Re: Meta AI releases Code Llama 70B

#105

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Quantization is highly effective at reducing memory and storage requirements, and it barely has any impact on quality (unless you take it to the extreme). Approximately no one should ever be running the full fat fp16 models during inference of any of these LLMs. That would be incredibly inefficient. I run 33B parameter models on my RTX 3090 (24GB VRAM) no problem. 70B should easily fit into 64GB of RAM.

I'm aware but is it still LLaMA 70B at that point?

It's a legit question, the model will be worse in some way... I've seen it discussed that all things being equal more parameters is better (meaning it's better to take a big model and quantized it to fit in memory than use a smaller unquantized model that fits), but a quantized model wouldn't be expected to run identically to or as well as the full model.

Re: Meta AI releases Code Llama 70B

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Can someone explain Meta's strategy with the open source models here? Genuine question, I don't fully undestand. (Please don't say "commoditize your complement" without explaining what exactly they're commoditizing...)

Total speculation: Yann LeCun is there and he is really passionate about the technology and openness

I doubt personal passions would merit the company funding required for such big models.

Re: Meta AI releases Code Llama 70B

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We actually run already in-house ollama server prototype for coding assistance with deepseek coder and it is pretty good. Now if we would get a model for this, that is on chatgpt 4 level, I would be super happy.

Did you finetune a model?

No, we went with RAG pipeline approach as we assume things change too fast.

Re: Meta AI releases Code Llama 70B

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How come a company as big as Meta still uses bit.ly ?

Ironically it doesn't help to use link shorteners on twitter anyway - all URLs posted to twitter count as 23 characters. The hypertext is the truncated original URL string, and the URL is actually a t.co link.

Re: Meta AI releases Code Llama 70B

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How? It's larger than 64GB.

Quantization is highly effective at reducing memory and storage requirements, and it barely has any impact on quality (unless you take it to the extreme). Approximately no one should ever be running the full fat fp16 models during inference of any of these LLMs. That would be incredibly inefficient. I run 33B parameter models on my RTX 3090 (24GB VRAM) no problem. 70B should easily fit into 64GB of RAM.

Can I ask how many tok/s you're getting on that setup? I'm trying to decide whether to invest in a high-end NVIDIA setup or a Mac Studio with llama.cpp for the purposes of running LLMs like this one locally.

Re: Meta AI releases Code Llama 70B

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quantization is highly effective at reducing memory and storage requirements, and it barely has any impact on quality (unless you take it to the extreme). Approximately no one should ever be running the full fat fp16 models during inference of any of these LLMs. That would be incredibly inefficient. I run 33B parameter models on my RTX 3090 (24GB VRAM) no problem. 70B should easily fit into 64GB of RAM.

I'm aware but is it still LLaMA 70B at that point?

Sure, quantization reduces information stored for each parameter, not the parameter count.
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