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Brave Leo now uses Mixtral 8x7B as default

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Re: Brave Leo now uses Mixtral 8x7B as default

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What is the definition of a submarine comment? Google fails and ChatGPT says: > A "submarine comment" on social media refers to a comment that is made on an old post or thread, long after the conversation has died down. This term derives from the idea of a submarine which remains submerged and out of sight for long periods before suddenly surfacing. In the context of social media, it's when someone delves deep into s…

I think GP is trying to coin a term for stealth marketing Hacker News comments, except the analogy doesn't really make sense.

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Re: Brave Leo now uses Mixtral 8x7B as default

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MV3 doesn't prevent adblockers from existing.

It makes them almost useless in practice.

Because the filter list is capped, right? Is there a reason the Brave team cannot just remove or increase the cap?

Re: Brave Leo now uses Mixtral 8x7B as default

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I prefer koboldcpp over llama.cpp. It’s easy to spilt between gpu/cpu on models larger than VRAM

That's interesting. It also looks like koboldcpp works better with long interactions, as it only processes changed tokens. I'm using llama.cpp with text-generation-webui and its OpenAI compatible API. I'll have to look to see if I can use koboldcpp with it.

Indeed. Koboldcpp works fine with other UIs than the bundled one.

Re: Brave Leo now uses Mixtral 8x7B as default

#104
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There is no way to confirm that claim, just like there is no way to confirm that a VPN service is "no log".

Yes, at some point if you're going to interface with other humans you will eventually just have to trust their word. For some people's threat models that isn't good enough, but for the vast majority of people—people who aren't being pursued by state intelligence agencies but who are squeamish about how much data a company like Google collects—a pinky promise from Brave or Mullvad is good enough.

I would like to think GDPR ensures this pinky promise is good enough

Re: Brave Leo now uses Mixtral 8x7B as default

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Is this submarine comment?

What is the definition of a submarine comment? Google fails and ChatGPT says: > A "submarine comment" on social media refers to a comment that is made on an old post or thread, long after the conversation has died down. This term derives from the idea of a submarine which remains submerged and out of sight for long periods before suddenly surfacing. In the context of social media, it's when someone delves deep into s…

Definition: https://paulgraham.com/submarine.html

Re: Brave Leo now uses Mixtral 8x7B as default

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If you want to run Mixtral 8x7B locally you can use llama.cpp (including with any of the supporting libraries/interfaces such as text-generation-webui) with https://huggingface.co/TheBloke/Nous-Hermes-2-Mixtral-8x7B-S... . The smallest quantized version (2bit) needs 20GB of RAM (which can be offloaded onto the VRAM of a decent 4090 GPU). The 4bit quantized versions are the largest models that can just about fit onto…

2bit is pretty damn terrible, I don't recommend it for anything serious.

At that level of quantization / distillation, smaller models like phi-2 (q&a) and wavecoder-6.7b (code-gen) might be preferable over QLoRAd ones: https://huggingface.co/microsoft/phi-2

> 2bit is pretty damn terrible

Wait till you go hybrid [0] or even 1bit [1]

[0] https://github.com/efeslab/Atom

[1] https://github.com/IST-DASLab/qmoe

Re: Brave Leo now uses Mixtral 8x7B as default

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Dumb question, but how can a 32 bit number be converted to 2 bits and still be useful? It seems like magic.

I think of it with this kind of analogy: the original image is stored with 32 bit color scheme. You can reduce the color scheme to 16 bit accuracy and still figure out pretty well what the image is about. 2 bit is stretching this to a bit far, basically either pixel is white or it is black, but even if you lose lots of nuances in the image, in many images even that gives you some idea whats going on in the image.

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Re: Brave Leo now uses Mixtral 8x7B as default

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Or a Linux machine with a Ryzen using the internal GPU and the unified RAM (scroll down at llama.cpp and look for ROCm).

Or a jetson orin agx (~2k$). Probably the cheapest way to get an Nvidia GPU with 64 GB of RAM.

Have you tried this yourself? Curious to know how well this works for an LLM home lab.

Re: Brave Leo now uses Mixtral 8x7B as default

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What are good API providers that serve mixtral? I know only octo ai which seems decent but will be good to know alternatives too

Together.ai seems to be the best, incredibly fast.

These guys are much faster than openrouter, and their llama2 runs faster than 3.5-turbo. Amazing work.

Re: Brave Leo now uses Mixtral 8x7B as default

#110

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It makes them almost useless in practice.

Because the filter list is capped, right? Is there a reason the Brave team cannot just remove or increase the cap?

Not just because of the filter list cap. It also reduces ad blockers to static filter lists instead of powerful dynamic filters.

MV3 makes it impossible for ad-blockers to inspect requests with code and then allow/deny dynamically.

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