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Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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That's not the first story like this. It seems like more and more often the QA is done by users who have not signed up for it. Why can't a multibillion company do a proper QA?

I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up making them money: people will replace their devices with newer ones. Once the device is sold it no longer has a function for the manufacturer until the next sale happens to the same user. So any update that bricks a percentage of the devices (or makes them effectively unusable) may well extract some more $ from the users.

I make it a point never to buy replacement devices from the same vendor if the product fails in such fashion.

Never reward incompetence with additional revenue.

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

#102
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Title is super misleading. I have 3 different pixels, all different versions (4, 5a, 7a) and none of them are "unusable" after the update. I'm sure others are having issues, but this isn't something that's bricking everyone's phones.

Are you sure they all got the Google Play system update, and that you're not confusing it with the Android security update?

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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This isn't true, there are a ton of companies that make lots of money while not being pieces of shit AMD is pretty good at having open source drivers, supporting Linux and Wayland, working with Framework to make an upgradable GPU in laptops.

> This isn't true Are you misinterpreting the previous comment? They didn't say you HAVE to cut corners to make billions, only that you CAN. EDIT: Oops, I missed the "only" in the other comment"

"You can only X if Y" means "In order to X, Y" also "You have to Y in order to X".

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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FYI, my pixel 5a phone has also been really slow and acting out in the last month. Crashes and extreme sluggishness in apps. Sometimes when I pull up the app-switcher, I can't get out of it without rebooting the phone. I however am not on the Jan 2024 Google Play update detailed by this article. I am still on the recommended Nov 2023 one.

If you're low on storage space, try freeing up a few gigs. My pixel 5 was impossibly slow when I let it get under 5 gigs free.

I've often had like 20 Mb free lately....it REALLY doesn't like that. I'm also on a Pixel3. About time to upgrade lol.

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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post #51

Title is super misleading. I have 3 different pixels, all different versions (4, 5a, 7a) and none of them are "unusable" after the update. I'm sure others are having issues, but this isn't something that's bricking everyone's phones.

Are you sure they all got the Google Play system update, and that you're not confusing it with the Android security update?

I'm sure. I have two in my house and they're purring right along.

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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> The issue is being reported by owners of numerous Pixel models, including the Google Pixel 5, 6, 6a, 7, 7a, 8, and 8 Pro, suggesting that it isn't confined to a particular hardware architecture. > The root cause is unknown but is likely a software issue with the January 2024 Play system update that Google hasn't pinpointed or fixed yet. > If you are still on an older update (last was November 1, 2023), it is recomm…

So degoogled GrapheneOS not affected.

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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With three phones and a one-in-eight chance of being unaffected (assuming 50% for each phone) that still leaves a very large number of phones out there that are potentially affected. 100's of millions of devices. The article is pretty clear that it doesn't seem to affect every phone, but that there are numerous complaints. I'm always imagining 'Some' in front of headlines like these unless it says 'All'.

> With three phones and a one-in-eight chance of being affected (assuming 50% for each phone) 1/8 would be the chance to have all 3 affected. The chance of having at least one affected would be 1-1/8.

Correct, I meant to write 'unaffected'. I'll fix it, thank you.

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up making them money: people will replace their devices with newer ones. Once the device is sold it no longer has a function for the manufacturer until the next sale happens to the same user. So any update that bricks a percentage of the devices (or makes them effectively unusable) may well extract some more $ from the users.

I make it a point never to buy replacement devices from the same vendor if the product fails in such fashion. Never reward incompetence with additional revenue.

With only two major vendors of phone software that gets problematic pretty quickly.

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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Nice sleuthing! It's incredible to me that there is no bullet proof recovery mode for this, even something as dumb as an Arduino can recover from almost every form of abuse.

> It's incredible to me that there is no bullet proof recovery mode for this, even something as dumb as an Arduino can recover from almost every form of abuse. There's a bullet proof recovery mode, check my comment below ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39145490 ) where I detail the steps and provide links. The EDL firehose mode is just the phone showing up on a very unique USB-ID and waiting to be spoon fed th…

That's way beyond most ordinary users though.

Re: Pixel owners report problems after installing January 2024 Google Play update

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post #51

Title is super misleading. I have 3 different pixels, all different versions (4, 5a, 7a) and none of them are "unusable" after the update. I'm sure others are having issues, but this isn't something that's bricking everyone's phones.

With three phones and a one-in-eight chance of being unaffected (assuming 50% for each phone) that still leaves a very large number of phones out there that are potentially affected. 100's of millions of devices. The article is pretty clear that it doesn't seem to affect every phone, but that there are numerous complaints. I'm always imagining 'Some' in front of headlines like these unless it says 'All'.

> With three phones and a one-in-eight chance of being unaffected (assuming 50% for each phone) that still leaves a very large number of phones out there that are potentially affected.

Sure, but isn't it the primary job of journalists writing about subjects like this to figure that stuff out before publishing? This is a headline that clearly implies "all" phones. Now we're in a subthread where it seems like the fraction is "Do you genuinely believe that "Pixel phones unusable" is a correct characterization of the situation given the data at hand? If you were an editor, would you have published that headline?

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