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Open source software is doing just fine. The siren song of government intervention will not make it better. > People working on software projects could apply for grants, which would be reviewed by a panel of peers and experts, then funded, and the impact of the software project can be reviewed. That's the dream. The reality is that the money will get allocated according to politics and corruption. The money will come…
If we recognize that the US government is corrupt, which I believe is a pretty universal sentiment among Americans, why aren't there any substantial anti-corruption movements?
The things nobody wants to pay for
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Re: The things nobody wants to pay for
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> clean, consistent, and "just work" on the desktop In my experience, most Linux desktop environments are leaps and bounds ahead of Windows here. What specifically do you want fixed?
Not the same person, but I've recently switched from Windows 10 to Debian stable with KDE, so I can share my experience. It doesn't really sucks. Instead, I'm happy I have no longer to put up with the growing number of Windows annoyances. The balance is definitely positive. That said, there are a number of issues that I've found. Some of them are solvable via configuration, some of them are not. I'll omit a couple of…
Re: The things nobody wants to pay for
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Wouldn't any OSS license that requires this, then by definition not be open source? Plus, when you're asking for a tax on say Apple, where they get to cough up multiple billions, then expect them to invest plenty in lobbying and lawyers. In other words this plan falls into the category of "sure, that sounds great, but there is simply no path for this to become reality."
> Wouldn't any OSS license that requires this, then by definition not be open source? The difference between FOSS and OSS. > In other words this plan falls into the category of "sure, that sounds great, but there is simply no path for this to become reality." And yet despite the extreme market capture of Meta we now have things like ActivityPub and soon WhatsApp will have support for 3rd party messaging services. Dar…
>> Edit: I guess HN prefers to stay stuck in quagmire rather than dream of improvements. Sad state of affairs.
Dreaming in itself doesn't lead to improvement. There's nothing wrong with dreaming per se, but it won't solve the problem raised by the parent article.
There are other course lots of ways to "improve" the situation. Microsoft has a model that generates mountains of documentation, and they find a way to pay for it. That model though (commercial software generating sales revenue) is not compatible with OSS licenses. I'm guessing we're looking for an "improvement" here that doesn't involve changing away from OSS licenses.
Even if that wasn't a deal-breaker though, fixing problems with new taxes is seldom a viable solution in the real world.
Taxes are seldom so specific - occasionally things collected here are used over there but mostly it's a giant pot. So your suggestion would be better described as "create a govt fund, seed it with billions a year and issue grants from that."
Certainly the money would have to come from somewhere, which means either raising some general tax, of cutting spending elsewhere. In case you haven't noticed there is little appetite in politics to increase spending. One party regularly lowers taxes and increases the deficit. The other wants to expand social services and increase the deficit. All sides see an increasing deficit as bad. (Go square that circle)
Interestingly European Govts -are- spending on OSS, and issue grants. But there's little appetite got this in the US.
So, by all means dream. By all means throw out ideas. But accept that most ideas are bad. This one is bad I multiple directions. That's no big deal, it'll help inform your next idea, which may be good.
Re: The things nobody wants to pay for
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#105AI can help with documentation. Simple tool can annotate all files and function using ChatGPP4 in few hours, then check it for correctness and completeness, then fix bugs, for few hundred dollars.
Re: The things nobody wants to pay for
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"Torvalds earns about 10 million per year" I'm curious how he earns so much? That seems like a lot for someone who is associated with FOSS, even if they are so influential/skilled.
Red Hat gave him a bunch of stock way back when. I'd guess whatever he makes at the Linux Foundation is a rounding error compared to that.
Re: The things nobody wants to pay for
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> Wouldn't any OSS license that requires this, then by definition not be open source? The difference between FOSS and OSS. > In other words this plan falls into the category of "sure, that sounds great, but there is simply no path for this to become reality." And yet despite the extreme market capture of Meta we now have things like ActivityPub and soon WhatsApp will have support for 3rd party messaging services. Dar…
The Open Source Initiative's Open Source Definition[0] doesn't permit discrimination against fields of endeavor. A license that discriminates between personal and business use is neither Open Source nor Free. The dichotomy between Free and Open Source software centers around political ideas around protecting user freedom. [0] https://opensource.org/osd/ Edit: re: your "hopes and dreams" edit - I think it's safe to sa…
Thanks for making me aware of the term source-available and the BSL.
> Just don't call those types of licenses "open source". They aren't. Those who attempt to free-ride on the goodwill..
Well, to be honest, organisations can't lay claim to general language concepts.
Many many people use "open source" to just mean "source openly accesible", and use "permissive source" for stuff licensed with GPL/BSD/Apache etc.
Re: The things nobody wants to pay for
#108Open source is the biggest voluntary transfer of wealth from the working class to the business/investor class ever. Software in the modern economy is the "means of production" and software developers have given it away free to the business/investor class. The investor class, happily funds software startup gambles that people pour their lives into knowing that most will fail but they will still statistically make bank…
It's a positive sum good for everyone, not some adversarial zero-sum game.
It's so good that we need to be doing a lot more of it, and (I think we'd all agree) figure out more ways to allocate capital to FOSS.
Re: The things nobody wants to pay for
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Open source software is doing just fine. The siren song of government intervention will not make it better. > People working on software projects could apply for grants, which would be reviewed by a panel of peers and experts, then funded, and the impact of the software project can be reviewed. That's the dream. The reality is that the money will get allocated according to politics and corruption. The money will come…
If we recognize that the US government is corrupt, which I believe is a pretty universal sentiment among Americans, why aren't there any substantial anti-corruption movements?
Re: The things nobody wants to pay for
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If Torvalds wants to earn more, he should focus on making Linux more user friendly rather than more Linux-geek friendly. Linux could get dramatically more resources if they could just drop their big-ego'd "CLI is god" mentality. Yes, Linux is a powerhouse OS, but it only appeals to a tiny slice of the population.
How goes greater userbase intrinsically mean more resources and not simply a much larger pool of angry emails from users encountering issues with their hardware?