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Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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Re: Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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Alan Watts used to say, it's ok to eat plants and animals, as long as when you cook them, you make something beautiful out of them to respect their sacrifice. It's the least you can do. I feel there is some truth to this. Eventually, your body will be consumed by insects.

I don't think those beings that were killed care about that.

The mindset is for your own benefit, not the dead thing you're eating.

Re: Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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That's so sad. I'm pretty militantly anti-spider but jumping spiders, despite seeming like they were sent from hell to terrify us, are just little furry big-eyed arthro-bros

Then why do our genetic memories compel us to be terrified of them

I think you're conflating your own phobia up with something more fundamental.

I've certainly never found them even a little bit frightening. I've definitely felt like "someone's home" but it's probably the big eyes bias.

Re: Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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I forget who said this or exactly what they said, but someone has pointed out that the more research humans conduct the more we find that animals and even plants are more complex, more intelligent and more sophisticated than we thought. It is worth keeping this in mind the next time someone tells you a small creature (perhaps a crustacean) cannot feel or think or do something that would mean we ought to be less cruel…

In my opinion, many ancient cultures have known this for a long time. Of course the universe eats itself, everything seems to eat everything, that's natural, but having respect for this process is what I think we've lost. Driving a car through a bunch of mating insects? Who cares right?

> Driving a car through a bunch of mating insects? Who cares right?

That problem has been solved but not necessarily in a good way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windshield_phenomenon

Re: Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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post #11

I forget who said this or exactly what they said, but someone has pointed out that the more research humans conduct the more we find that animals and even plants are more complex, more intelligent and more sophisticated than we thought. It is worth keeping this in mind the next time someone tells you a small creature (perhaps a crustacean) cannot feel or think or do something that would mean we ought to be less cruel…

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Re: Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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That's so sad. I'm pretty militantly anti-spider but jumping spiders, despite seeming like they were sent from hell to terrify us, are just little furry big-eyed arthro-bros

Then why do our genetic memories compel us to be terrified of them

When you show images of a spider to a six month old baby their pupils expand, which is apparently a pretty reliable physiological indicator of fear.

https://www.cbs.mpg.de/Fear-of-spiders-and-snakes-is-deeply-...

Re: Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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post #11

I forget who said this or exactly what they said, but someone has pointed out that the more research humans conduct the more we find that animals and even plants are more complex, more intelligent and more sophisticated than we thought. It is worth keeping this in mind the next time someone tells you a small creature (perhaps a crustacean) cannot feel or think or do something that would mean we ought to be less cruel…

That's great, but if I ever see a jumping spider in my house then I will not hesitate to murder it in cold blood.

Exposure therapy can help squashing irrational fears, which is what I would suggest in the case of small creatures triggering a fear response.

Re: Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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Then why do our genetic memories compel us to be terrified of them

I think you're conflating your own phobia up with something more fundamental. I've certainly never found them even a little bit frightening. I've definitely felt like "someone's home" but it's probably the big eyes bias.

I would not characterize it as phobia, so much as I find them disgusting for some reason, dirty and unclean.

Re: Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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That's so sad. I'm pretty militantly anti-spider but jumping spiders, despite seeming like they were sent from hell to terrify us, are just little furry big-eyed arthro-bros

Then why do our genetic memories compel us to be terrified of them

Jumping spiders trigger significantly less of that response than other types of spiders. Are you sure you know what a jumping spider looks like?
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