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Each Facebook user is monitored by thousands of companies

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I have one browser (Chrome) where I have logged into Facebook/Insta/Oculus/Meta and one where I have never logged into them (Brave with Shields UP). I'd like to think that gives me some protection from tracking in the clean browser. Am I naïve?

Firefox offers tab sandbox/isolation so you don't need to do this. It's becoming standard elsewhere. You'll want to start isolating everything eventually. Gmail, shopping sites, etc.

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I have one browser (Chrome) where I have logged into Facebook/Insta/Oculus/Meta and one where I have never logged into them (Brave with Shields UP). I'd like to think that gives me some protection from tracking in the clean browser. Am I naïve?

Probably protects you against a decent amount of tracking, but there are numerous markers still that don’t even rely on cookies, and when used together can be correlated back to your profile. For instance, IP address, user agent OS string, timezone, hardware capabilities via the browser, etc.

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I have one browser (Chrome) where I have logged into Facebook/Insta/Oculus/Meta and one where I have never logged into them (Brave with Shields UP). I'd like to think that gives me some protection from tracking in the clean browser. Am I naïve?

I regularly get my ads and social algorithms injected with topics that I have no relation to, except other people in my household are deeply into them.

Like pet reptiles related products while my kid was doing prior research before pitching us on raising one.

The bigger companies definitely cross reference access from different users/devices/browsers.

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Link to the actual Consumer Reports report: https://www.consumerreports.org/electronics/privacy/each-fac... So most of the data provided is probably coming in via the FB tracking pixel. I think the references to FB's "custom audiences" is a red herring - it's a very manual process and very few companies use that feature in any sort of scale. FB hashes the data that gets uploaded and specifically throws out extraneous…

Consumer Reports themselves have 12 unique data trackers on their site, including the Facebook pixel.

And just to be clear about the usage of the term "Monitored" here. They mean that data tracking pixels are sending anonymized data between META and all of these companies. Not a soul at META or any company with that pixel installed are aware of any PII or even, in most cases, cognizant of your specific session on their site.

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With an average of over 2000 companies tracking each person in the study, and with a great many of those companies being retailers, there is zero chance the identities of the individuals involved are not either already de-anonymized or trivially de-anonymized at some point in the future through a leak of the data collected by one of those retailers.

I have little doubt some of these companies do de-anonymization themselves (or through a third party). I use a PO Box for all my mail, yet I somehow get ads delivered to me based on my interests and recent purchases in my name to my residential address. I've literally never purchased anything using my residential address, I have zero mail sent here intentionally.

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I have one browser (Chrome) where I have logged into Facebook/Insta/Oculus/Meta and one where I have never logged into them (Brave with Shields UP). I'd like to think that gives me some protection from tracking in the clean browser. Am I naïve?

You are. Compare the fingerprints of your two browsers: https://amiunique.org, https://coveryourtracks.eff.org. Very likely, the fingerprints are very similar. For anonymity, use Tor.

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With an average of over 2000 companies tracking each person in the study, and with a great many of those companies being retailers, there is zero chance the identities of the individuals involved are not either already de-anonymized or trivially de-anonymized at some point in the future through a leak of the data collected by one of those retailers.

I have little doubt some of these companies do de-anonymization themselves (or through a third party). I use a PO Box for all my mail, yet I somehow get ads delivered to me based on my interests and recent purchases in my name to my residential address. I've literally never purchased anything using my residential address, I have zero mail sent here intentionally.

Do you receive mail to both addresses under the same or any name? Is it required to have the name field populated to receive mail to your physical or P.O. Box?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surveillance isn't the reason. It's a means to a goal, which is to sell people stuff.

You're right, but "selling people stuff" is a secondary source of profit. Surveillance too. The truth is, users become profitable far before they ever pull out a credit card, and the goal isn't the credit card, it's the user itself. To target an ad for a product, you need an interest-based profile on someone. To build that profile, you need data. To influence public opinion (as has become so popular for politicians a…

> Product sales are not the aim. The people are what is sold.

Exactly. The business model of companies like Facebook can IMO best be described as "fully automated digital pimping".

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I have one browser (Chrome) where I have logged into Facebook/Insta/Oculus/Meta and one where I have never logged into them (Brave with Shields UP). I'd like to think that gives me some protection from tracking in the clean browser. Am I naïve?

Firefox offers tab sandbox/isolation so you don't need to do this. It's becoming standard elsewhere. You'll want to start isolating everything eventually. Gmail, shopping sites, etc.

Last I checked, Firefox no longer offers the Facebook container feature on fresh install. It was a hidden feature I had to go into about:config to set up... :(

Re: Each Facebook user is monitored by thousands of companies

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I have one browser (Chrome) where I have logged into Facebook/Insta/Oculus/Meta and one where I have never logged into them (Brave with Shields UP). I'd like to think that gives me some protection from tracking in the clean browser. Am I naïve?

They do something called browser fingerprinting and look at things like resolution, feature support, os, window size, ip address, and a hundred other things, and make a best guess
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