Earlier quoted context omitted.
Arista or whitebox switches, depending on how big you are and your appetite to DIY your network as code vs DIY writing configuration.
What is a whitebox switch?
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Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE
#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
Never buy a consumer print device. The enterprise kit from HP is still good.
I print well below 100 pages a year. What would be the price per page using an enterprise grade printer?
I'll share my example. I bought a Brother DCP-L2540DW (networked, full-duplex B&W laser, scanning with ADF) in 2015 for ~$120 after tax. I've gone through one toner cartridge for ~$50, so total cost excluding electricity is ~$170 for me. I've printed ~3,700 pages so far, so average price per page for the printer has been ~$0.046. I get paper for ~$0.03/page, so total price all in was probably ~0.076/page. This will continue to go down, the printer's current drum life is still >8,000 pages and should last me at least several more years.
With ~100 pages/year that would have been ~900 pages so far. At 900 pages, that probably would have been fine with the included toner, so toner costs don't count. Assuming you turn it off when not printing so energy costs are negligible. That brings it to ~$0.16/page (with my ~$0.03/page paper) printed.
Printing at the FedEx shop is ~$0.23/page for B&W. The public library nearby has B&W printing for $0.15/page. So with ~100 pages/year its cheaper than a chain office shop but more than the library at this point. A few more years will shift that closer and eventually beat the library price.
I've just given up on the economics of photo printing at home. It seems to me you really need to print a lot of photos to compete with the ease of photo printing at most photo stores in the US. You'd need a really good photo printer to match most of the quality of online stores, so you'd need a pretty good printer with nice ink and paper. In-store pickup at a number of places usually means like an hour turn around or so.
Note though that overall my value for my printer is higher than just the printing. As mentioned, it is also a scanner I've scanned ~1,000 items with it.
Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE
#103I remember working with Juniper equipment a decade ago (I didn't like it because I've traditionally worked exclusively with Cisco equipment), but I haven't heard anyone in my circles mention Juniper since. Are they considered a niche vendor today (similar to Novell in the 2000s)?
I've worked with a large number of vendors and I prefer juniper. They're very easy to write software against.
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#104HPE took over Aruba wireless and Nimble storage. We used both products. They didn't fuck with Nimble support much. As of a few years ago, it was still great.
Aruba wireless...oh man. The support was so terrible.
We had some high availability controllers go out of sync. Couple hours on the phone, no resolution. Had a bunch of back and forth, another couple calls, nothing. It was sort of funny (and sad) watching a different 'tech' try the same scripted steps, over and over again.
Finally I was able to get the issue escalated, and the next guy I talked to seemed to really know his shit. Made some fundamental changes that should have never been that way in the first place, he got one controller back on, and then in the middle the next controller, he fucking bailed off the call and left us in the hands of a new guy.
A new guy who couldn't fix it. He actually broke it in a new away, and then our maintenance window closed. Two more maintenance windows later, nothing fixed, same useless drones trying the same crap, I just gave up.
I ended up fixing the last bad controller myself. My organization was paying almost my salary per year for this 'support' contract. What a joke.
Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE
#105I remember working with Juniper equipment a decade ago (I didn't like it because I've traditionally worked exclusively with Cisco equipment), but I haven't heard anyone in my circles mention Juniper since. Are they considered a niche vendor today (similar to Novell in the 2000s)?
Juniper is pretty big, and probably the company most of the Cisco users are turning to, in my experience. Cisco has stagnated for so long and continue their attempt to push over prices solutions that simply isn't as good or modern as those of their competitors. We continued to buy Cisco for longer than we should have, because "New stuff is surely around the corner", but it's not. Cisco still makes enterprise equipmen…
> Juniper is pretty big, and probably the company most of the Cisco users are turning to, in my experience.
Not really. Which is why this acquisition price is lower than all their competitors.
> Cisco has stagnated for so long and continue their attempt to push over prices solutions that simply isn't as good or modern as those of their competitors.
Which products, which competitors?
> Cisco isn't the dominate play it used to be and is almost never the first choice for new projects anymore.
Maybe for you, but they are the best in a variety of areas and continue to bring innovation (like Silicon One).
Like any large product company, they have winners and losers, but the existence of losers doesn't assure the absence of winners.
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
Soon it will all be Taco Bell.
Don't you mean Ma Bell, in this context? ;)
Nope, all Bells will be Taco Bells after the Franchise Wars. I wouldn't trust any other restaurant for my telecommunications and networking needs.
Case in point, their 7-layer Burrito [1] offering maps perfectly to the OSI Model [2]. It is fully self-encapsulating (though occasionally leaky), and operates bidirectionally with full duplex support for correctly-configured clients.
[1] https://tacobell.fandom.com/wiki/7-Layer_Burrito [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
But Arista is probably half the price of Juniper so that doesn't make much sense.
But Arista only has switching hardware and a few other specialty devices (L1 switches from their Metamako purchase). Vendors like Juniper offer load balancers, firewalls and everything else you need for managing a data center or company.
Load balancer, firewalls and everything else you need for managing a data center or compagny are virtual machines
It has been years since those features are best served via a general-purpose CPU
Those appliances are nothing but a rebranded servers with some more-or-less interesting software
Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE
#108Happy Juniper customer since 2010. Across SRX, EX, QFX lines. What to do now, what to do...
Arista or whitebox switches, depending on how big you are and your appetite to DIY your network as code vs DIY writing configuration.
Whitebox switches for the win. Last datacenter I worked in we ripped out all our juniper, cisco, and mellanox gear. Went all in on cumulus. The fact that everything is linux made automating everything a breeze. Templated switch configs, automated deployments and upgrades, virtualized switch OS to test config changes via CI.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
> printers, which used to be a good business Good business as in earning money or as producing customer satisfaction? I don't know about the former, but I do know that HP printers are a horrible user experience these days. The printer is connected via USB, but it cannot be used without an internet connection to their data collection and ink selling cloud nonsense. I will never by anything from that brand again. (I us…
I have nothing but good feelings about LaserJet I-6 and the 4000s era circa 1998. I've heard newer models aren't quite as tanks. Lots of good/reasonable experience with Deskjet 660 and 720C. Although the driver situation for 64-bit windows got real terrible (microsoft had a working driver for server 2003, but insisted on shipping a broken driver for vista/7, so you had to dig up the old one. I think Windows 10 change…
My 4000N from october -98 is still running strong. It only has around 140K impressions so far, so I guess I’ll die before the printer :)
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
We have been testing equipment from other vendors, so that we could replace Juniper in the future, it needed. Those plans just became much more relevant, unless the plan is that Juniper takes the lead on HPE networking. HPE would have been purchased by Micro Focus is it wasn't a hardware company. It's really sad to see the decline, HP actually made some nice stuff, 15 - 20 years ago.
> Those plans just became much more relevant, unless the plan is that Juniper takes the lead on HPE networking. Rami (Juniper CEO) is staying and leading.
Famous HP(E) buyouts:
- Digital Alpha: dead
- Digital Storageworks: dead
- Left Hand Networks: dead
- 3par: dead