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What on earth does beef have to do with this? If anything, people eating more beef might consume less fish. Cattle populations are not collapsing.
>What on earth does beef have to do with this? The topic here is eating habits that damage the environment.
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Fish management doesn't really require global cooperation. It does require some sacrifice. Where I live 100 years ago herring spawn covered nearly every shoreline. I live in an archipelago so there is a lot of coastline. Now there are sporadic patches of herring spawn. The herring fishery is a multi million dollar industry. Herring is also the base of the larger fin-fish population. We can't harvest all the food for…
>That is something that can be done at a local level without global cooperation. You're assuming some foreign operator won't come to your local waters to illegally fish. China has shown they will fish literally anywhere they can get away with it. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/26/world/asia/ch...
Basic economics would suggest that a country with low nominal GDP/capita would not be the final destination for a global commodity (with relatively high production cost) like deep sea fish. Given that your production site is in the Pacific Ocean, why would you sell in Shanghai when you can sell in San Francisco where the average person spends ~10x or more USD on food?
TFA even says the West Pacific (i.e. China, Japan, Korea) is the region suffering the least, due to local conservation measures.
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Saturated fat from beef is one of the healthiest things to consume.
Where could I read more about this?
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Can you give an example of a 'meat subsidy'? I'm unaware of any.
Not GP, but US livestock subsidies total $50B since 1995: https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news/2022/02/usda-livestoc... I found this a useful primer on the form that those subsidies take: https://farm.ewg.org/subsidyprimer.php (edited to clarify US scope)
I watched a documentary years ago about jellyfish invading Japan. Basically, the jellyfish population was exploding because the fish didn't exist to eat the baby jellyfish and keep them under control. The Japanese fishermen were furious that they kept catching jellyfish, rather than the fish that they wanted. They were the cause of their own suffering. Sounds like things haven't changed... I hesitate to think that Ja…
There's a way to deal with intruders (or, let's call it by its name, pirates) into maritime space: stop their ships, seize them or torpedo them. It's only a question of time IMHO until this happens, China has been making enemies at sea in its neighborhood, even up to Africa, for years now.
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> We shouldn’t destroy the oceans. That's why this isn't great. Because this is not "we went vegan to save the oceans". It is "the oceans look like they are already destroyed". Besides that, I haven't seen any studies that show a vegan or vegetarian diet makes someone healthier.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/155982761142576... This is an extensive review of many papers from 10 years ago, most data agrees that vegetarian diet is considerably healthier. More modern literature merely adds that if you go full vegan you need to eat quite some if you want to preserve lean mass.
Most people who are vegan are more likely to be health conscious
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That's not how fishing works. After some threshold growing fish in aquaculture becomes cheaper than fishing, and things get back in balance. Otherwise, salmon would've been extinct by now. Tuna and herring are not grown en masse in aquaculture... yet. That will change.
I've always heard predatory species like tuna cannot be farmed, but my knowledge may be outdated
I started casually watching the reality TV series "Deadliest Catch" about 15 years ago, and became a regular viewer since then. In that time span: - the amount of Bering Sea ice has dropped significantly - the amount of 100-year storms has increased - crab numbers have decreased - crab seasons have been outright canceled due to major population collapses - crab that remain are seeking deeper/colder water As much diss…
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That's not how fishing works. After some threshold growing fish in aquaculture becomes cheaper than fishing, and things get back in balance. Otherwise, salmon would've been extinct by now. Tuna and herring are not grown en masse in aquaculture... yet. That will change.
I've always heard predatory species like tuna cannot be farmed, but my knowledge may be outdated
Eat less meet people, it's not that hard.
Eat less, meat people.