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Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by shadowgovt »

maxbond wrote: post #80
User23 wrote: post #63

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> Most adults consume pornography, and for the vast majority of them it isn't a problem. Got a source for this? Because everything I look at suggests that much like alcohol, a relatively small number of habitual users account for the vast majority of consumption.

Not to hand. That's my belief from my observation. I looked for statistics for about 10 minutes, but didn't really find good information. I suspect this area is under researched. Happy to look at any sources you want to link. Both of these can be true, however. I imagine most adults sometimes drink alcohol too. Personally I might go weeks or months without watching porn, it's not something I generally do everyday. Pe…

You know, the organizations most likely to have that information are the ones with the big data on access and source IP address, who could make an educated guess on the scale and variety of consumers of pornography.

... In other words, PornHub.

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by brucethemoose2 »

Gigachad wrote: post #93
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #85

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Yeah. As a seperate note, I saw another HNer blog post specifically complain about AI generated furry art as a destroyer of talented furry artists... I get the point, but still have mixed feelings. If some AI is so incredible at an artistic niche (not just furry), isn't that amazing? If artists are not economically free to pursue new styles and representations the AI doesn't "know," I feel thats a larger problem with…

I don't think it's as simple as just exploring new styles. AI has gone from generating unrecognizable crap to stunning digital art within a year. And it's not clear how much further it will go. If you are a digital artist who makes their entire income on what was once a very secure job of drawing furry art. You'd be terrified right now. The artists are still quite a way ahead of the AI stuff, but for how long? I thin…

Yeah. And forget images or comics, what happens when AI can make a furry TV show, even if it has to be steered by an individual? Its not that far away, all the pieces are there. How do oldschool artists possibly compete with that, even if the AI quality is questionable?

I'm just frustrated society isn't ready for this. Someone who made useful stuff for others, for years, shouldn't have to worry about having a roof over their head when automation is so rampant.

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by tedivm »

LammyL wrote: post #60
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #39

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While I strongly disagree with this NC law, and others, your analogy is a bad one. As a society I think we've accepted that some things (cigarettes, alcohol, sex, etc.) should be restricted from children. That's a far cry from requiring ID every time I go to the grocery store. But, as long as I've been alive, you have had to show ID to purchase alcohol, and the sky hasn't fallen. Again, I think these types of laws ar…

It is one thing to show ID. It is an other thing to show ID and have the details stored in a database in perpetuity by companies who don’t have huge budgets for data privacy and security.

These days when you buy alcohol there's a good chance that data is being stored. A lot of restaurants and stores that sell alcohol scan or swipe cards as part of the purchase now.

Just one example: https://okcfox.com/news/local/cyber-security-experts-be-wary...

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by BobaFloutist »

jxdxbx wrote: post #70
LammyL wrote: post #60

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It is one thing to show ID. It is an other thing to show ID and have the details stored in a database in perpetuity by companies who don’t have huge budgets for data privacy and security.

Zero-knowledge methods for verifying age are possible but there is almost no political will or interest in them. Sites would get a “yes” or “no” as to whether someone is of age, and no other information.

They could verify ID, associate you with an "ID verified" token, and immediately trash all the information they collected other than that token.

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by [deleted] »

nostromo wrote: post #66

Wow, this moronic bill passed nearly unanimously. It's nice to see bipartisanship on display in North Carolina when it comes to the stupidest ideas. > Any commercial entity that knowingly and intentionally publishes or distributes material harmful to minors on the internet from a website that contains a substantial portion of such material shall... That's a ridiculously vague standard. Google and Bing both distribute…

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Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by [deleted] »

hattmall wrote: post #44
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #39

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While I strongly disagree with this NC law, and others, your analogy is a bad one. As a society I think we've accepted that some things (cigarettes, alcohol, sex, etc.) should be restricted from children. That's a far cry from requiring ID every time I go to the grocery store. But, as long as I've been alive, you have had to show ID to purchase alcohol, and the sky hasn't fallen. Again, I think these types of laws ar…

You had to show ID to buy porn magazines, go in a strip club or even the adult video rental room. It's pretty insane that we have no check for an unlimited amount of free porn with all kinds of extremes. It fucks up a lot of kids (and adults). Showing porn to a random kid on the street would have you catch a charge if not something worse, but somehow on the Internet it's just fine?

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Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by shadowgovt »

brigadier132 wrote: post #32
TriangleEdge wrote: post #11

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Pornhub is one of the most visited websites on earth [1]. So, my question to this comment is how do you define value in this case? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-visited_websites

Heroin and fentanyl are used by many and generate a ton of money and they are still of negative value to society. Usage and ability to generate money have nothing to do with value to humanity.

Ooh, don't say that too loud, you're going to embarrass angel investors. ;)

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by brucethemoose2 »

userbinator wrote: post #97
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #36

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There's in fact a Stable Diffusion model trained on most of e621. Uh not sure what HN's linking rules are, but look up Furtastic. Though I understand and respect furrydom, I'm not a furry... But in its niche of generating anthropomorphic people, I still find the model to be incredible. Its got to be one of the most extensively trained, tagged and coherent SD 1.5 finetunes out there, which doesn't even surprise me TBH…

I think you meant "anthropomorphic animals ".

True.

Maybe the adjective is mismatched, but "people" is not necessarily a synonym for "human," right?

Re: E621, Pornhub, and others block North Carolina residents

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Post by lilboiluvr69 »

coldnose wrote: post #4

E621 isn’t even mentioned in the article, but of course it comes before pornhub in the title on HN X3

It's because I'm a furry and it's the only 'porn site' (not all the art is even explicit) I care about. And Inkbunny too I guess.
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