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In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by thefourthchime »

nsagent wrote: post #79

As someone in the Apple ecosystem, Firefox is not a very compelling alternative. I've certainly tried: Firefox Focus was my main iOS browser for a few years (I know it's Webkit-based) and I've tried switching on desktop as well. On desktop, various Firefox updates would change my settings subtly and nag me about features I had no interest in. On top of that, it was simply a slower browser, both with DOM manipulation…

Same, it's simply easier to use Safari on my phone and Mac. The performance is fantastic, syncing is perfect, and switching between the two devices is effortless.

If I used windows or Linux I would probably give it a try again.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by SpaghettiCthulu »

nsagent wrote: post #79

As someone in the Apple ecosystem, Firefox is not a very compelling alternative. I've certainly tried: Firefox Focus was my main iOS browser for a few years (I know it's Webkit-based) and I've tried switching on desktop as well. On desktop, various Firefox updates would change my settings subtly and nag me about features I had no interest in. On top of that, it was simply a slower browser, both with DOM manipulation…

I don't know what browser you've tried, but it certainly is not Firefox Quantum. That browser in my experience is on par with Chrome's performance.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by squidbeak »

closewith wrote: post #3

I use Firefox because it's the least bad option remaining, certainly not because I believe it's the last remaining ethical web browser. I have no confidence in Mozilla's ethics or mission, and no longer contribute directly or financially for that reason.

I agree with the implicit point. From the ethics standpoint, regardless of what happens at the top, Mozilla's waywardness isn't reflected in the browser, unlike Google's web and user hostility with Chrome (manifest v3 etc).

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by JonathanBeuys »

nacs wrote: post #94
JonathanBeuys wrote: post #45

I would like to, but Firefox behaves problematic in regard to auth urls like https://name:password@news.ycombinator.com 1: When you bookmark them, it shows the auth part when you hover the bookmark with the mouse. 2: When you open them from the command line firefox https://name:password@news.ycombinator.com And then ctrl+click links on the site, it opens the new tab and shows the auth part in the tab title as long as…

You're literally putting the password in plain-text into the (unencrypted) browser bookmarks (and also into your terminal where it's likely logged to your ~/.bash_history). That is the bigger security issue you have, not how Firefox is handling the display of the URL. If anything, Firefox is highlighting your insecure security practice.

I'm not typing them in my terminal. I have scripts that automate my workflow. And part of it is logging me into websites.

Regarding storing them in plain text: That's not much different from ssh keys. When someone can read your ssh key, they can log in as you.

If you know a better way to automatically log a user into a website, let us know!

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by wharvle »

nsagent wrote: post #79

As someone in the Apple ecosystem, Firefox is not a very compelling alternative. I've certainly tried: Firefox Focus was my main iOS browser for a few years (I know it's Webkit-based) and I've tried switching on desktop as well. On desktop, various Firefox updates would change my settings subtly and nag me about features I had no interest in. On top of that, it was simply a slower browser, both with DOM manipulation…

> On desktop, various Firefox updates would change my settings subtly and nag me about features I had no interest in

If Firefox suited my needs 100% as well as Safari, this is why I’d still not use it. God damn is it noisy. You’re a browser, I have no interest in engaging with you more than necessary, whatever-I-was-trying-to-do is what I care about. Please stop acting like a kid who’s not getting enough attention. It’s off-putting.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by dylanz »

jcalvinowens wrote: post #5

I switched back to firefox last year and haven't looked back. I still use chrome on another laptop sometimes, the performance difference from my human perspective is literally zero. These days, it's much more common for me to encounter a website that works in firefox but not chrome than the other way around. I actually switched for good when I had to use firefox to file my taxes, because the IRS free self-file site w…

I unfortunately switched back to Chrome last week after having used Firefox for years due to not being able to use sites I frequent. I constantly ran into issues with Heroku, GCP (go figure), and a few financial sites I'd log into regularly.

Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox

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Post by matthew-wegner »

bloopernova wrote: post #67

From yesterday's Firefox thread: Firefox has multiple compelling reasons to use it: Sync[1] only what you allow, bookmarks/history/extensions/etc Containers keep sites separated nicely[2] Tree Style Tabs[3] uBlock Origin on Android[4] Open Source since 1998! Not based on Chromium [1] Be wary of sync on a fresh Linux install, it might sync the default bookmarks and merge them with your own. Not a huge deal but definit…

On [5]:

It's not that Mozilla named their UI "Chrome", but that "chrome" is a graphical user interface word. For a browser it refers to the stuff around the web page content, but it's more general than browser use (you could refer to Blender's chrome around the 3D viewports to refer to its toolbars, etc).

i.e. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Glossary/Chrome

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