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High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Post by ryukoposting »

fragmede wrote: post #88
ryukoposting wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, what a funky little device! Thanks for the lead, I might have to pick up one of these things. It looks good for hack ing but is it hack able itself? An exposed JTAG port would have this thing shipping to my home right now.

it exposes an Arm serial wire debug port, which is and isn't a JTAG port. Specifically, it's a different layer 1 interface, using a 2-wire serial port instead, but it uses the JTAG protocol on top.

I'm familiar with SWD from a UX standpoint- I write firmware, so I use it a lot. "Just cram the wires into the J-Link a little differently" is about as much research I've ever had to do to use SWD. I never really dug into the technical differences. Thanks for the explanation!

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Post by ziml77 »

127361 wrote: post #95
closewith wrote: post #93

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Nah, if you effect other people's property, you are morally responsible for the foreseeable outcomes. You don't get to absolve yourself of responsibility because you've decided that their preparedness didn't meet your expectations.

Some examples, e.g. court judgements?

You need laws to stop you from being a shitbag, messing with other peoples' stuff?

The person you're replying to was also careful to say you are morally responsible. That has nothing to do with legal issues.

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Post by pixxel »

malfist wrote: post #97
pixxel wrote: post #71

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With respect, pandering to outliers is never the answer.

Is a handicap ramp, pandering to outliers?

This is a terrible analogy. Ramps don’t impede society; anyone can make use of them.

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Post by 127361 »

ziml77 wrote: post #102
127361 wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some examples, e.g. court judgements?

You need laws to stop you from being a shitbag, messing with other peoples' stuff? The person you're replying to was also careful to say you are morally responsible. That has nothing to do with legal issues.

Sorry. Yes I agree that you can be morally culpable for it, but not legally. I didn't notice the distinction there.

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Post by theshrike79 »

ryukoposting wrote: post #16
yellow_lead wrote: post #3

It's probably a flipper zero. There is a Bluetooth iOS spamming script which can cause the devices to freeze or crash.

Wow, what a funky little device! Thanks for the lead, I might have to pick up one of these things. It looks good for hack ing but is it hack able itself? An exposed JTAG port would have this thing shipping to my home right now.

There's a whole community making stuff for it. You can even get external antennas attached to the GPIO pins that multiply the range to something ridiculous.

TBH mine is mostly a clone of my NFC/RFID keys and I've got every Amiibo on ever made downloaded on it :D

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Post by alephnerd »

seanhunter wrote: post #35

Before any gets inspired by this and tries to use an F0 for assorted hijinks like this, just make sure you understand the legal framework in your country. In the UK where I am for example, this is almost certainly “deliberate interference with wireless telegraphy” which can carry a 2 year prison sentence. Not saying that the law isn’t an ass, just that you might want to know what you’re getting yourself into before y…

Also, if you are intent on doing this in K-12, make sure to practice strong opsec if executing on this.

Source: banned from all SFUSD computers in middle school after exploiting misconfigured AD for the middle school library after the librarian noticed the time period it occurred

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Post by ziml77 »

127361 wrote: post #104
ziml77 wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You need laws to stop you from being a shitbag, messing with other peoples' stuff? The person you're replying to was also careful to say you are morally responsible. That has nothing to do with legal issues.

Sorry. Yes I agree that you can be morally culpable for it, but not legally. I didn't notice the distinction there.

I should also apologize. I was over-aggressive in my response. Just ticks me off to see a comment that seems like it's defending messing with property of others (which you actually didn't imply, but instead I inferred it).

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

#108

Post by deadbabe »

agsnu wrote: post #86
deadbabe wrote: post #66

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So what you’re saying is plant a device that can’t be traced to you then leave the area and set it to fire on some timer.

The UK has the most CCTV cameras per person outside of China, so better make sure your opsec counter-surveillance skills are up to scratch...

Just wear a COVID mask and a hoodie.

Re: High school student allegedly uses device to turn off nearby iPhones

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Post by InCityDreams »

deadbabe wrote: post #108
agsnu wrote: post #86

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The UK has the most CCTV cameras per person outside of China, so better make sure your opsec counter-surveillance skills are up to scratch...

Just wear a COVID mask and a hoodie.

And put a stone in one shoe so your gait is affected.
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