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Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by Neikius »

sergiosgc wrote: post #20
m463 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All this should be recommended in the UI. The car DOES have maintenance needs. Lots of people in models X & S are surprised to find their seemingly ok tires are NOT OK because they wear very quickly on the non-visible inside edge. there are brakes on the car, which have pads and fluid. There is coolant for the battery. Honestly, there should be a maintenance screen in the UI. You should be able to replace tires, or w…

It should be possible to equip the car with enough sensors to detect or predict maintenance needs. Tesla's approach is, however, still incomplete. The powertrain is sensored enough, suspension/brakes/tires aren't.

Funny experience with vw - is had front brake pad sensors. Ofc rear pads wore off and never tripped any sensor...

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by arpinum »

This is not about failure rates or an indication of quality. This is faults found during a scheduled inspection.

Normally this means finding faults that occur since the last maintenance interval. If a car has a long or no maintenance interval (like Tesla) then more faults are expected.

Also note that failure can mean windshield wiper needing replacement or headlight re alignment rather than a premature part failure.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by CptMauli »

baz00 wrote: post #36

Own a Dacia. At least when it breaks the parts are cheap :) New wing mirror cost me £25!

And this is exactly why that report is somewhat misleading. On the cheaper end of cars, a lot of those are not maintained regularly, and this is the reason why they fail in the first place. And if you look closely, in most cases the reason for the fail has something to do with lights or brakes or tires. Stuff which does not cost much to fix in a Dacia, but is crazy expensive on the upper end, BMW etc.

I had the first major issue with my Dacia since I bought it 7 years ago, and it had something to do with the LPG installation, and it was about 1000€. From a TCO standpoint of view, that car is so dirt cheap, only my little Seat Mii (CNG) - which I bought used, is cheaper.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by Telemakhos »

sschueller wrote: post #56
silisili wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My last two new ICE cars had horrible infotainment that crashed constantly, loose fits, and an interior that rattles until it drives one to violence. I'd say they are competing on even grounds here.

Infotainment is not a cars purpose but an addition. If you need to play video games and watch Netflix then you should not be driving.

This. I still drive a 2001 auto in no small part because it’s a car instead of an ipad on wheels. I don’t want a GPS or any of that distracting nonsense, and I don’t want my car spying on me.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by bagels »

martin8412 wrote: post #76
bagels wrote: post #50

I wish they were more specific about the "brake problems"

The brakes are rarely used, so they begin to rust. Having fully functional brakes are mandatory even if you rarely use them.

I suppose it depends on what parts are rusty and how rusty. Surface rust on rotors is not really problematic. I'm wondering if it's a subjective visual inspection vs a test of brake function.

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by grecy »

skrause wrote: post #91
grecy wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and government subsidies What government subsidies has Tesla received to date? Please post links to sources.

https://subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/tesla-inc

Interesting it makes no mention the federal loans were repaid in full, early, with interest.[1] As apposed to GM & Chrysler who got billions in bailouts that were never repaid. [2]

[1] https://money.cnn.com/2013/05/22/autos/tesla-loan-repayment/...

[2] https://theweek.com/articles/454749/auto-bailout-officially-...

Re: Breakdown of faults by car brand: Tesla has replaced Dacia at the bottom

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Post by bayindirh »

bmitc wrote: post #39

Is this really a surprise? There are physical realities, and a single company can't suddenly reinvent a century of industry experience with some Silicon Valley pixie dust and government subsidies. Tesla, like many startups, is just rediscovering what it takes to build a car and what other companies have already figured out. Bringing a new drivetrain is not enough.

I think Tesla embodies the SV mindset very well, even demonstrates it in a tangible form.

They move fast and break things.

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