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Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by bunderbunder » Tue, Dec 19, 2023, 4:39 PM UTC

jtbayly wrote: post #40

notRobot wrote: post #19

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Lots of podcasts do not exist on YouTube. There is no way to subscribe to feeds or auto-download episodes or any of the dozens of quality of life features that podcast users have been enjoying for over a decade. I subscribe to YouTube Premium but to consider it a replacement to a proper podcasting app seems naive to me.

If you like things inshittified, then it seems like a great idea. Let's put big tech in between me and the things I want to consume, when there's no need, and let them begin to try to make money off of it and make everything worse!

Enshittification is becoming a big deal on YouTube. The set of topics that YouTubers need to walk on eggshells around in order to avoid being demonitized is getting out of control, and is becoming increasingly reminiscent of the sort of constant, normalized self-censorship that's accepted as the norm on the internet in China. And it's entirely driven by the whims of advertisers.

But, also, I feel like they've sort of got me as a captive audience right now because YouTube's the only video platform that has a sizable international creator base.

Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by newscracker » Tue, Dec 19, 2023, 4:39 PM UTC

devin wrote: post #62

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Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by pvg » Tue, Dec 19, 2023, 4:40 PM UTC

tjpnz wrote: post #91

pvg wrote: post #79

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If you think something is misflagged you can vouch for it.

I'm aware of that but am perplexed by the sheer volume of these compared to other articles.

The sheer volume of repetitive comments on such topics might have something to do with it.

Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by anotherhue » Tue, Dec 19, 2023, 4:40 PM UTC

frereubu wrote: post #70

jtbayly wrote: post #43

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I also left Spotify because of podcasts. I did not want to listen to podcasts, and they couldn't get that through their heads, shoving it down my throat, advertising it to me, even though I paid for an ad-free experience. Drove me crazy, so I left.

What did you switch to? I tried Tidal, loved the noticeably higher-quality audio, but there were two dealbreakers for me - no crossfade playback (for running) and no downloads to the desktop app (for travelling). I could just about have dealt with no downloads on the desktop app, but they actually removed the crossfade playback a while ago because, according to an official reply on their support forums "it didn't add…

Apple music is less enshittifified for now. I'm enjoying not fighting a losing battle with Spotify PMs on every interaction.

Seriously considering just getting a record player so I can get rid of these middle men though. It's too much.

Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by slipperlobster » Tue, Dec 19, 2023, 4:40 PM UTC

gentleman11 wrote: post #63

slipperlobster wrote: post #42

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kagi is great. It's overpriced, but if you are willing to pay the premium for unlmimited searches (you run out really quickly or aviod doing searches otherwise with the normal plan), it's really good

I don't know if it's overpriced, or if it is the sticker shock of _having to pay for search where almost everywhere else provides it for free_. I'd rather not pay, but I'd also rather pay and support something to get them to stick around long-term.

Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by rickdeckard » Tue, Dec 19, 2023, 4:40 PM UTC

nerdjon wrote: post #57

While I am sure this is likely to push people towards YouTube premium subscriptions, I feel like Podcasts are unique in the way they are consumed that they need a dedicated app. Otherwise we end up with either a bloated YouTube app or an even more confusing "Youtube Podcasts" app (then YouTube music, YouTube videos, and YouTube whatever google decides to abandon next). Would be a good time for Apple to maybe advertis…

> While I am sure this is likely to push people towards YouTube premium subscriptions

I seriously wonder if anyone would really _PAY_ for the user experience of YT Music.

It is one of the weirdest media apps I've used in a long time. Never fully fit for purpose, always "okay, somehow works".

Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by bpanon » Tue, Dec 19, 2023, 4:41 PM UTC

isodev wrote: post #24

vecplane wrote: post #6

YouTube is effectively a Google Podcasts platform already. Paying for YouTube Premium to avoid ads is some of the best money I spend each month. I wish I could do the same for Spotify podcast ads. I do pay for Spotify already to avoid ads in music, but I can't seem to avoid them for the Joe Rogan Experience.

I loved the idea of Youtube Premium at first, but I feel €15/month is exorbitant amount for what we're getting in return. Same for Facebook/Instagram which will have a similar cost starting from February.

If you sign up from Mexico it is half price.

Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by geraldwhen » Tue, Dec 19, 2023, 4:41 PM UTC

gentleman11 wrote: post #48

vecplane wrote: post #6

YouTube is effectively a Google Podcasts platform already. Paying for YouTube Premium to avoid ads is some of the best money I spend each month. I wish I could do the same for Spotify podcast ads. I do pay for Spotify already to avoid ads in music, but I can't seem to avoid them for the Joe Rogan Experience.

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I believe in paying for things I enjoy. I don’t use YouTube enough to pay for it, but I pay for other services, books, and content.

When you love something, the payment is patronization. You want the thing to continue to exist.

Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by enumjorge » Tue, Dec 19, 2023, 4:42 PM UTC

paxys wrote: post #39

The entire podcasts industry seems to be on a downward spiral. I feel like the days are numbered for Spotify's podcast dreams as well, looking at how little they are promoting them now in app or outside. What on earth happened? It was the hottest new thing in media, and then...everyone just collectively lost interest? Was it just the Covid bubble, or something else?

It strikes me as a similar situation to Meta and the whole VR/metaverse thing. A company takes an ecosystem that's gaining popularity, makes a big bet on it in the hopes that it fuels the growth that Wall Street constantly demands and tries to turn it into a market of a size that the ecosystem was not ready for, and possibly never was going to be.

Re: Google podcasts is shutting down

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Post by guerrilla » Tue, Dec 19, 2023, 4:42 PM UTC

tkiolp4 wrote: post #38

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