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Tim Sweeney on why Epic did better against Google than Apple in court

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Re: Tim Sweeney on why Epic did better against Google than Apple in court

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Because the comparison is to Apple.

The lawsuits vs Google and Apple were about was allowing 3rd-party stores onto your platform, not about hardware lock-in.

Epic vs Google: Epic wins.

Epic vs Apple: Epic loses.

Comments like OP: "Lesson learned: just lock down your platform like Apple"

My response: "If Android is locked down [like Apple] it never gets big"

Not sure why this is so hard to follow.

Re: Tim Sweeney on why Epic did better against Google than Apple in court

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Xbox, PlayStation, and Nintendo sometimes lose money on hardware sales. Operating system venders never lose money on software sales because software costs nothing to reproduce (they can still lose money but the loses do not increase as sales increase). I do not know anti-trust law but I think the difference in business models should be acknowledged.

> Xbox, PlayStation, and Nintendo sometimes lose money on hardware sales. Nintendo has never sold a console at a loss, Sony hasn't done it since the PS3 in 2006 and Microsoft since the 360. So it's not the norm since more than a decade.

Maybe you're playing a semantic game with "console", but both the 3DS and Wii U were initially sold at a loss. I think the Wii U may have always been sold at a loss. (Edit: Apparently only the the first three years, though I guess it's questionable the degree to which it sold at all after that.)

Re: Tim Sweeney on why Epic did better against Google than Apple in court

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Get instant notifications for purchases. Add card to my digital wallet. As for your claims about markets and openness, I am not sure what are you even trying to say.

That in the United States, 60% of the users don’t care about “openness” and buy iPhones and pay on average twice as much for the privilege.

In the absence of choice, making an assertion about one's preference is absurd.

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That in the United States, 60% of the users don’t care about “openness” and buy iPhones and pay on average twice as much for the privilege.

In the absence of choice, making an assertion about one's preference is absurd.

They have a choice - dozens of Android phones with different degrees of “openness”

Re: Tim Sweeney on why Epic did better against Google than Apple in court

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Right, the problem is that I said it was false, not that you said something totally false with such certainty.

Hey I said, "I think", and was ready to accept that there was more to it. Yours was assertive about that being wrong without providing any supporting evidence for your claim. You made me find it instead. Hence the "bad form". I'm not sure how "I think..." conveys certainty. It's just an abrasive thing to do running around going "False!" and "Wrong!" on the Internet. So yeah I'll give you flak for it. I put in effort…

What's he supposed to say? "Sweetie, you might maybe be possibly wrong maybe. I might be wrong too but i think it could be saying..."

He didn't attack you or act abrasive. You are right that "I think" is not supremely certain language, but it does actually carry certainty with it since you're not saying "I don't know anything about this, but I think..."

Conclusion: I believe you're being a bit overly defensive, and should relax a little. He wasn't personally attacking you, he was saying you were false when you were objectively false, without much in the way of personal insult or even arrogance, and cited his source reasonably well.

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> So you really think the state controlling content is not going to be more restrictive than private corporations? Yes, because then app restrictions that violate free speech/press will get slammed by the supreme court.

Let me introduce you to a little state you might have heard of called Florida where the governor is punishing a company for criticizing a law that was passed and trying to expel a student group that is not pro-Israel. Or other states that make it a crime to boycott Israel. You think the app review process is Byzantine. Wait until you try to get 8 justices to review your app and how long do you think that will take?

That stuff is going to get smacked down by the federal SC hard
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