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Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by BobaFloutist »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #29

> as Sony just decided to yoink over a thousand seasons—that's right, seasons, not episodes—of Discovery shows from the PlayStation Store Didn't realize Sony owned Discovery, oh wait they don't. So it's actually Discovery who's licensing caused Sony to be legally obligated to remove the shows. Sucks if you bought it but yeah just like the games in your Steam library you never actually owned it, you merely licensed it…

Content I have bought and downloaded should be as irrevocable as a book on my bookshelf.

"Licensed" is a made up word. Did I buy it? It's mine. Did I rent it? It's no longer mine after the rental period is over. End of story.

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by thfuran »

pierat wrote: post #33
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #29

> as Sony just decided to yoink over a thousand seasons—that's right, seasons, not episodes—of Discovery shows from the PlayStation Store Didn't realize Sony owned Discovery, oh wait they don't. So it's actually Discovery who's licensing caused Sony to be legally obligated to remove the shows. Sucks if you bought it but yeah just like the games in your Steam library you never actually owned it, you merely licensed it…

> Sucks if you bought it but yeah just like the games in your Steam library you never actually owned it, you merely licensed it. If you're lied to about a "sale" and it's really just a shitty rental, we have a different word for that: FRAUD. And the action that Sony hacked devices and removed said content? It mirrors the individual form of this ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38614624 ), which is "horribly ill…

It shouldn't be legal for a transfer of a revocable license to be described as "buying".

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by vimax »

llm_nerd wrote: post #35
spicyusername wrote: post #6

It seems that we've entered the rent-seeking phase of corporate capitalism. Why spend any extra time, money, or energy making new products or services when you can instead make more money doing nothing but using your outsized political and economic power to coerce and extort consumers instead. At this point it's impossible to see how any new merger or acquisition isn't just another step in the wrong direction, handin…

A tiny musician withdrew their music, so I'm not sure how relevant breaking up mega firms is. In cases like this, a creator puts their own music on a service like Amuse. They or that service (acting as their "publisher") removed it, which removes Apple's right to stream it. Apple didn't take away this guy's Ladybug Music.

But Apple sure did market iMusic as a legitimate replacement for owned physical media while never mentioning the the fact you don't own it and it may disappear at any time. That fact is only mentioned buried somewhere in the EULA, and only popularized by people like the EFF and the victims.

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by verve_rat »

pkdpic wrote: post #60

Glad to see this pop up, its been a weirdly big struggle for me as a new-ish parent. For a while my ancient CD collection and healthy ecosystem of local used vinyl / CD stores had us in a nice routine in conjunction with youtube-dl and my posse of old Sony voice memo usb mp3 players. Then youtube-dl wasn't a thing anymore (maybe it is again?)... Then we had to get a new car (a Tacoma)... No CD player, no aux cable. I…

Try an fm transmitter?

Plug it into a 12v socket (cigarette lighter socket) and plug the audio cable into the headphones jack. Tune the radio to the set frequency. Bob's your uncle.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=fm+transmitter+for+car&crid=XYUJ3...

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by hatthew »

JohnFen wrote: post #8

Music is very important to me. So important that I never dared to trust streaming services. Not only do they require an internet connection (something that is not always available), but if the service experiences downtime, license changes, etc., that music is not available. If I'm going to spend my money on music, I'm going to spend it on music in a form that isn't reliant on the ongoing operation of some service som…

I wish I could do that, but unfortunately my music taste is so varied/fluid that it would take thousands of dollars and a full day's work to purchase and download all the music I listen to these days. And a couple years from now I'd need to do it all over again to update based on my new taste.

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by JohnFen »

chx wrote: post #15

The beautifully written but not much known Rune Blades Of Celi ebooks no longer can be purchased, as the small publisher is just gone. Of course, the ones I purchased could no longer be downloaded. But want something bigger? Fine. The Wheel Of Time (is that large enough for you?) Complete Edition I bought for over a hundred dollars also can't be donwloaded any more. (And to be more on topic, one of my favorite artist…

> one of my favorite artists have disappeared from Bandcamp and so did my purchases.

Always download the flac of the music you purchase on Bandcamp. Then your purchases won't ever go away.

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by JohnFen »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #44
chx wrote: post #15

The beautifully written but not much known Rune Blades Of Celi ebooks no longer can be purchased, as the small publisher is just gone. Of course, the ones I purchased could no longer be downloaded. But want something bigger? Fine. The Wheel Of Time (is that large enough for you?) Complete Edition I bought for over a hundred dollars also can't be donwloaded any more. (And to be more on topic, one of my favorite artist…

> Tell me true, if you can't buy them how on earth it is piracy to download them? People would argue that it's up to the seller whether they want to make their creations available. If I don't want to sell you something, then I'd entertain the argument that downloading it anyway is in some sense immoral or unethical. But in your situation, you've already fucking bought it! It's as if you placed a pick-up order at the…

> People would argue that it's up to the seller whether they want to make their creations available.

But this gets complicated. I wanted to post a song from a somewhat obscure '80s band on my website and so tracked them down and asked for permission.

One of them (the songwriter) responded to say that the band has never had the rights to the music on that album and, in fact, they don't even have a recording of it themselves. In his words "as far as I'm concerned, you can do whatever you want with that stuff". I posted the song and sent him a high-quality copy of the album it came from.

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by paradox460 »

at_a_remove wrote: post #50

I'm considering some kind of combination of autoloader feeding either Exact Audio Copy (which isn't set up for them) or dbpoweramp (which apparently is set up for them) to get metadata, then I guess I will have to pirate or rebuy discs when the AccurateRip indicates that there's some damage to the disc. I've avoided iTunes and its descendants due to all of the horror stories about destroyed music libraries and music…

I've long thought about getting an old Bravo CD burning robot, and making it run "backwards". Always been a "I oughtta" project

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by paradox460 »

pimlottc wrote: post #70
sertbdfgbnfgsd wrote: post #22

- Download mp3 - Play on VLC. Not complicated.

It’s not that simple for the poster’s use case, which is “play whatever my kids want to hear while we’re in the car”

Download MP3

Put on Plex/Jellyfin/Subsonic

Play in car

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by ssss11 »

gambiting wrote: post #86

The thing that really worries me and which no one seems to be talking about is the region locking of localisation for streaming content. For context - we're a Polish family living in the UK(like 2 million other Polish people). We have a small child who loves Disney films, and because he is normally exposed to English(and speaks it fluently) I'd like him to at least watch cartoons in Polish. But Disney region locks mo…

That’s a fascinating perspective which I wasn’t aware of - locking of language localisation. Thanks for raising.
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