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Anti-aging drug for dogs moves closer to gaining FDA approval

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Re: Anti-aging drug for dogs moves closer to gaining FDA approval

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Post by Der_Einzige »

idopmstuff wrote: post #13
deadbabe wrote: post #2

Why would any creature have hormones to accelerate aging as opposed to just letting the body wear out naturally with use?

Bear in mind dogs are pretty unnatural creatures at this point - we've done so much breeding that you can't really assume any natural forces apply to their development at this point. After all, why would any creature develop a facial structure that makes it hard to breathe (like bulldogs, pugs, etc.)? The answer is because humans are selfish.

I want tail docking to be banned so bad. Corgis have tails and they look like foxes when they're kept! So beautiful! like a friendly fox.

Re: Anti-aging drug for dogs moves closer to gaining FDA approval

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Post by Der_Einzige »

ramesh31 wrote: post #16

So the goal is to make big dogs live longer... by reducing the hormone that makes them big? Couldn't we just adopt healthier, proportional, longer lived dogs? Or do people just really want to see how miserable a 15 year old Great Dane would be?

Giant dogs are almost universally known for their gentle temperament and superior qualities for families. They are treasures, regardless of how they age.

Re: Anti-aging drug for dogs moves closer to gaining FDA approval

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Post by wwwtyro »

lm28469 wrote: post #52
appplication wrote: post #32

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Time passes far too fast for dogs. Many do not even make it to 10.

Accepting it is 10 times less stressful than fighting it. Also most of these issues are brought by dumb breeding practices...

Yes, simply accepting the inadequacy of our current technology is always going to be easier than working to improve it. It's also going to lead to infinitely less progress.

Humanity is eventually going to be able to extend lifespans indefinitely. Whether that happens sooner or later depends on how many people decide not to go gentle into that good night.

Re: Anti-aging drug for dogs moves closer to gaining FDA approval

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Post by ryandvm »

lukev wrote: post #85
boppo1 wrote: post #63

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Good move unless it includes pit bull. Pitbull mixes are not appropriate for family pets and anyone who says otherwise is lying to you or themselves. Please protect your loved ones and stay away from pitbulls and pitbull mixes. They are total sweet hearts, right up until they're not. Edit: I too was once a 'how it's raised' apologist. After a number of experiences and some research, my mind is concluded. Someone in t…

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a well trained and socialized pit bull/mix. Anyone who says otherwise is lying to you or themselves. EDIT: None of the papers folks have posted control for training or socialization. I grant you that due to socioeconomic factors you will in fact find more samples of aggressive pitbulls than aggressive dogs of other breeds in most regions, but that is not what's under discussion.…

Disagree.

I've had dogs all my life - many breeds. We currently have a rescue that is a pit/lab mix and although she is sweet as could be to humans, she is a menace at the dog park or day care. Constantly trying to fight.

Folks who say that breeds don't matter are deluding themselves. Pits are just plain aggressive. There's a reason that every time you see a "DOG MAULS CHILD" headline, it's always one of the same few breeds (hint: it's never a golden retriever).

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Post by nradov »

lukev wrote: post #85
boppo1 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good move unless it includes pit bull. Pitbull mixes are not appropriate for family pets and anyone who says otherwise is lying to you or themselves. Please protect your loved ones and stay away from pitbulls and pitbull mixes. They are total sweet hearts, right up until they're not. Edit: I too was once a 'how it's raised' apologist. After a number of experiences and some research, my mind is concluded. Someone in t…

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a well trained and socialized pit bull/mix. Anyone who says otherwise is lying to you or themselves. EDIT: None of the papers folks have posted control for training or socialization. I grant you that due to socioeconomic factors you will in fact find more samples of aggressive pitbulls than aggressive dogs of other breeds in most regions, but that is not what's under discussion.…

I don't believe you. Most of those dogs are fine, but a few just seem to have a screw loose in a way that can't be fixed through training or socialization. People who believe otherwise are in denial or lack experience. Whether the root cause is due to irresponsible breeding or whatever is irrelevant, it's just really antisocial behavior to bring a pitbull where they can potentially present a risk to others.

Think through the potential consequences. If a beagle freaks out and bites a toddler then they might need a few stitches. With a pitbull it can be fatal.

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Post by ornornor »

bbarn wrote: post #73
ornornor wrote: post #54

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We just lost our cat last week. She was 18 and got a tumor in her nose which became too big. Her kidneys were mostly fine and it wasn’t a concern the last time we checked (about 6 months ago) I think she lived so long because she was allergic to most commercially available food (chicken and beef allergy) so we had to feed her higher quality food with 95+% meat. We also put her water in a different spot or the house (…

> high quality, 95+% meat food (dry and wet, the cat picks whenever she’s hungry) I think this right here is the smartest thing you can do. Cats are obligate carnivores, and some of the crap in the stores is just fillers they crap out anyway. Same with dog food - they design it to make poop more solid and easier to deal with.

I noticed that too, all the supermarket (and “vet only” foods like pedigree pal etc) are mostly fillers like corn or other things that cats don’t really eat normally but make it much cheaper to produce.

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Post by ornornor »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #99
ornornor wrote: post #80

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I think this depends more on your lifestyle. If you're never home and can't play with your cat, there is nothing to watch out of the windows (birds, nature...), no toys, etc then I guess two cats make sense because they can entertain each other. But otherwise, it's fine. We were feeling guilty about keeping our cat indoors after the incident (it's not in their nature, etc) but every (North American) vet told us that…

Shorter life of freedom and enjoyment is better than a long life stuck in a box. The real reason why they incentivize cats to stay indoors is to spare bird populations. Anything else is a cope.

Indoors cats can have a happy, full, low stress life indoors. The onus is on you to make sure that’s the case. It means providing entertainment (play, toys, windows) and making a little effort. Indoors cats are not in prison like you’re trying to make it sound.

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Post by stephenitis »

Eumenes wrote: post #79

I recently visited nyc and was hanging out in central park. I saw so many huge dogs, huskies/german shepards/retriever/etc, which made me sick to my stomach. These poor animals need space. They are not biologically designed to be an accessory for the urban rich. Being held hostage in 300 sq foot apartments while their vapid owners are working in some office or on zoom calls all day is borderline torture. These drugs…

maybe, they exercise their dogs and walk often? I've seen both city and suburban dogs treated well and poorly.

I do think it's harder to manage a dog's existence in a crowded city's parks.

Re: Anti-aging drug for dogs moves closer to gaining FDA approval

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Post by Eumenes »

stephenitis wrote: post #109
Eumenes wrote: post #79

I recently visited nyc and was hanging out in central park. I saw so many huge dogs, huskies/german shepards/retriever/etc, which made me sick to my stomach. These poor animals need space. They are not biologically designed to be an accessory for the urban rich. Being held hostage in 300 sq foot apartments while their vapid owners are working in some office or on zoom calls all day is borderline torture. These drugs…

maybe, they exercise their dogs and walk often? I've seen both city and suburban dogs treated well and poorly. I do think it's harder to manage a dog's existence in a crowded city's parks.

ya, I don't doubt that some are exercised well and often but being walked around a concrete jungle is hardly a substitute for big open spaces.
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