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Average distance to a supermarket in Amsterdam is 400 meter or 1300 feet

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Re: Average distance to a supermarket in Amsterdam is 400 meter or 1300 feet

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It's the same in most large cities. Of course this is paid for at the till...

> Of course this is paid for at the till... Not needing to own a car more than makes up for that.

But once you have a car, the marginal cost is negligible, hence the death of main streets and proliferation of big box stores.

Re: Average distance to a supermarket in Amsterdam is 400 meter or 1300 feet

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I would like to see how many SKU's are in these stores compared to places where the stores are further apart.

Right? I lived in Brooklyn and could walk to three grocery stores, but none of them sold a decent sirloin.

Perhaps this has more to do with changes in demand for a decent sirloin in Brooklyn.

Re: Average distance to a supermarket in Amsterdam is 400 meter or 1300 feet

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There's a YouTube channel[1] explaining the difference between North American cities and European ones. As a resident of Amsterdam he covers this city a lot. I'm from Zurich, Switzerland. I don't own a car because everything I need is either in walking/cycling distance or reachable by public transport. While I've been well aware of the car dependency situation in North America, watching a few episodes from the mentio…

I'm in Chicago in Rogers Park and own no car. Everything I need is walking distance and I get to work via commuter rail that is a block from me. It's awesome.

Re: Average distance to a supermarket in Amsterdam is 400 meter or 1300 feet

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post #80

Maybe the more interesting stats for parents: Average distance to primary/elementary school: 500m (with on average 3.6 schools within a 1km radius, 27.5 within a 3km radius) Average distance to secondary/middle-high school: 900m (with on average 10.8 schools within a 3km radius) That's why starting from age 8 or so most kids cycle or walk to school themselves (there are no school busses in the Netherlands AFAIK).

I can confirm there are no school buses in Amsterdam. School kids do use the extensive public transport network to get to school on occasion.

From what I've seen in recent years, we don't have school buses in a lot of the US anymore, either. Now every school-aged kid has to be transported back and forth in a personal vehicle.

Re: Average distance to a supermarket in Amsterdam is 400 meter or 1300 feet

#105

There's a YouTube channel[1] explaining the difference between North American cities and European ones. As a resident of Amsterdam he covers this city a lot. I'm from Zurich, Switzerland. I don't own a car because everything I need is either in walking/cycling distance or reachable by public transport. While I've been well aware of the car dependency situation in North America, watching a few episodes from the mentio…

Very interesting link (@Not Just Bikes), didn't think it's so bad in the US with pedestrian walkways.

I mean like I live in the Romanian suburb and it's not great, but supermarkets everywhere and walkways alongside car roads is the norm. What we still try to catch up is Netherland-ish bike lanes, problem's when they do it at all, "they" (city roadworks) implement it in a very Balkan way: they made a bike lane allright but every 10 meters there's a crossing with a 10 cm bump, makes biking on the lane rather impractical if not impossible.

https://imgur.com/a/iCCQJRt

Re: Average distance to a supermarket in Amsterdam is 400 meter or 1300 feet

#106

There's a YouTube channel[1] explaining the difference between North American cities and European ones. As a resident of Amsterdam he covers this city a lot. I'm from Zurich, Switzerland. I don't own a car because everything I need is either in walking/cycling distance or reachable by public transport. While I've been well aware of the car dependency situation in North America, watching a few episodes from the mentio…

in NYC, no car, but an ebike is necessary to help pickup food from further restaurants

Re: Average distance to a supermarket in Amsterdam is 400 meter or 1300 feet

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post #76

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Which, luckily, no-one is suggesting here. (By the way: there's always new 1 or 2 year olds coming in, too...)

The missing ingredient (compared to previous times) is numerous close friends/family who can help take care of the babies and toddlers.

Yes, that's one of the problems when all "communities" exist only online today.

Re: Average distance to a supermarket in Amsterdam is 400 meter or 1300 feet

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post #76

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The thing is that 1 or 2 year olds don't stay that age forever and shouldn't dictate the design of a city.

Which, luckily, no-one is suggesting here. (By the way: there's always new 1 or 2 year olds coming in, too...)

American zoning laws have made anything else illegal to build, so yeah, you are kinda suggesting we should design our country for a specific way of life.

Re: Average distance to a supermarket in Amsterdam is 400 meter or 1300 feet

#109

There's a YouTube channel[1] explaining the difference between North American cities and European ones. As a resident of Amsterdam he covers this city a lot. I'm from Zurich, Switzerland. I don't own a car because everything I need is either in walking/cycling distance or reachable by public transport. While I've been well aware of the car dependency situation in North America, watching a few episodes from the mentio…

I'm in Chicago in Rogers Park and own no car. Everything I need is walking distance and I get to work via commuter rail that is a block from me. It's awesome.

Rogers Park is a great hood for sure. Do you know if that arcade bar is still open by the El station?

Re: Average distance to a supermarket in Amsterdam is 400 meter or 1300 feet

#110
post #84

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It's not a rant, but thanks for the sarcasm. It's an observation, given that I've lived through those decades. You would have loved the 70s. Nothing open on a Sunday, and shops closed half day on Wednesdays.

And a dutiful wife cooking that freshly bought food, with my pipe and slippers ready for when I get in, kids ready for evening inspection and off to bed, yeah sounds delightful.

Oh the horror.
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