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Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by locuscoeruleus »

chrisandchris wrote: post #48
aryonoco wrote: post #17

Every once in a while, I looked for an alternative to Google. I have given them all a go, but none of them stayed as my default for more than a few days. Until Kagi. I absolutely did not think I would pay for a search engine. Especially as I've recently been on a quest to cut every unnecessary subscription. YouTube Premium is gone (thanks to 83/% family plan price hike). Half of my dozen or so domains are gone... you…

Similar here. I didn't know Kagi until, as I remember, there was an article here on HN. I thought too why should I pay for search? Kagi basically won me after I realised I can exclude whole domains from search results - now Pinterest, Stackshare and all those AI-generated content filler sites are gone from my search results. Search results are great and it's just worth it. The only advantage Google so far has IMHO is…

You can set the location for your search, but I find it a bit tedious. You either have to push two buttons (advanced search+change location) or do the search+change location. This is my main gripe with Kagi so far.

edit: I just realized there should be a search bang for this and indeed there is. Adding !countrycode to your query works. Still a bit tedious on phone, but helps on computer.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by pelagicAustral »

I paid for a sub a few months back. It was good, but the volume of my searches is offensive, it was unrealistic to think that I was ever going to stick to the product. Just like someone else posted, I'm trying to cut down on subs at the moment, and this product, as amazing as it is, it's just not beating free google with dorks + ChatGPT.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by MrJohz »

Dayshine wrote: post #58
MrJohz wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm also not sure I quite get the love. I got the free trial, and I've set it as my browser's default search engine for now to get used to using it. The problem for me is that it's at best equivalent to, and at worst a lot poorer than the same search in Google. Which is a shame, because I've been finding Google less and less useful recently. Maybe I need to fiddle around with the settings more, get some better filter…

Why not just use bangs to change from the more common to less common region on a search by search basis? Or just use the programming (or other) lens for documentation

That could work, but it's not perfect. I think part of it is that it's all very contextual - for example, if there is an English language version of the exact same content, then I almost always want the English language version, even if I'm searching within Germany, plus there's a bunch of exceptions where e.g. I always want German Amazon (because that's where my account lives).

Google mostly gets this right, at least in my experience, although it's become a lot worse recently. Having to configure it with bangs might work, I'll have another go at that in the future.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by freeAgent »

nalekberov wrote: post #90

I am still not convinced that I should trust Kagi. Why should I use my email address to log into the system? They say that it's for them to know how much credit you have left. Mullvad does generate a unique number for you, which you can use indefinitely.

You can create an account with an aliased/unique email address.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by civilitty »

andrewaylett wrote: post #80
reddalo wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Semi-off topic, but do you recommend using both uBlock and Pihole? I'm currently a uBlock user (on Firefox), and I was thinking of setting up a Pihole. Thanks!

They might have similar results in many cases, but they're very different things. For a start, if uBlock blocks a domain then it's a click away from accessing it just this once. On the other hand, it only helps in browsers it supports. On the gripping hand, uBlock Origin can block individual resources, not only entire domains. I'm a happy user of NextDNS rather than a PiHole, but the rationale is the same: use DNS bl…

Agreed, I also use both. NextDNS/PiHole are great because you can configure them as the root DNS providers at the router level and give everyone in your household and guests on WiFi a painless ad-free experience while layering uBlock on top for the sneakier ads like Youtube.

The only downside is email unsubscribe links. Those annoyingly tend to be on domains blocked by the various block lists NextDNS uses.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by freeAgent »

q0uaur wrote: post #87
yunohn wrote: post #6

I find it kind of hilarious that a paid search engine is highlighting paid articles to help their users avoid them.

we really need a better way of paying for content. There's some attempts going around of browsers or extensions paying sites, but the ones i've seen felt kinda scammy. i'd love some service where i can put in $20 a month, and it gets split up among the sites i've visited, with options to give bigger shares or exclude sites completely. probably not gonna happen for a while though, having to set up something to receive…

Scroll used to basically do this, but then it was acquired by Twitter, lobotomized, and turned into a Twitter Blue feature. After that I gave up on it.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by aryonoco »

lovich wrote: post #61
jcul wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, also the same experience. Who would pay for search right? I signed up for the $10 plan, before they introduced unlimited searches. One month I went over and thought ok, I'm not really ok with making more than 10. A few weeks later they switched to unlimited. The lens feature is great. I have one for searching my company's public documentation etc. The redirect thing is great too, it can rewrite URLs on the fly,…

Reddit to old.Reddit as a feature is enough to make me look into this as a replacement search engine. My search experience for specific information that’s kept on subreddits has been hell since they introduced new Reddit. If it can automate for me navigating to Reddit, then modifying the url to old.Reddit, and hopefully not accidentally clicking on the page and needing to reverse back or get redirected based on the c…

There are also browser extensions which can do that redirect, but of course the story of browser extensions on mobile OSes is quite sad, and I'm sure Reddit will get rid of the old UI of these days anyway

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by rplnt »

How's your experience with non-english searches?

Google has become unusable to search in a foreign language if you do not happen to be in a given country. It's trying to be too smart. It's ignoring double quotes, tld restriction still searches for the sites in a language of the country I'm in, etc... it's really frustrating at times.

Not to mention Google can't search anything old anymore. It's either news or spam. Or irrelevant "autocorrect". And it used to be so great with a little bit of effort. 10+ years ago that is.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by colesantiago »

"Sign Up to use Kagi"

Why does one need to signup to use a "privacy" based search engine like Kagi if it needs my email and password?

Can't it just accept a username like HN and be done with it?

I'm trying to use a fake email, tor and a VPN and I'm running into errors, eventually I gave up.

Re: Kagi Search – Paywalled articles indicator and improved weather widget

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Post by nvarsj »

cianmm wrote: post #88
nvarsj wrote: post #84

I really like Kagi. The only thing bugging me is there is occasional delays when searching, at least from the UK. Google's instant search definitely has spoiled me there.

I remember trialing it a while back and gave up pretty fast due to the consistent very long delays when searching from Ireland.

Yeah, I wonder if it's optimized for US only right now. If the Kagi team is listening, please fix for world wide :). It's not always bad, but P95 needs work.
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