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Re: JetBrains AI

#102
post #84

> Besides yourself, who knows your project best? Your IDE! This statement is a bit creepy.

Could you elaborate why? You open the project, it is scanned and indexed. Seems logical and obvious if the IDE can sugges a relevant completion based on the whole project structure. Thanks!

Of course knowing is different than indexing and they are routing your code to an LLM, so data exfiltration is also involved. I can summarize my project in two minutes to a collaborator, and they will have more knowledge of it than any indexing mechanism. The underlying connotation when you use the word "knows" is that you've shared it with actual people, not a vector database. And that is creepy. Not sure why I would have to explain any of this.

Re: JetBrains AI

#103
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IIRC, (US) copyright would be assigned to the person who used the tool*. Just like how your keyboard doesn't own the copyright to what you write with it. * Existing contracts with copyright assignment clauses notwithstanding

at what point does a keyboard become aware enough to make it not copyrightable? If I instructed a monkey to press enter and create a poem with chatgpt, that work wouldn't be accredited to me or anybody. How come a monkey makes it not eligible but GenAI is? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_selfie_copyright_disput...

I don't believe there's settled case law to answer that question. Anyone's answer is speculation at this point until it actually gets litigated.

Re: JetBrains AI

#104

Who owns the source code if AI is helping you write it? Is this a concern for companies that are copyrighting their code? What if multiple companies use this AI tool to implement an algorithm and then copyright it?

In a recent copyright application, the US Copyright Office wouldn't let me copyright my apps translations because I used Google Translate to help. I argued that I had created the original documentation (which they allowed) and that I had used Google Translate as a tool, typically doing several "round-trip" iterations to get the meanng across, but no joy. Here's an article from Ruters discussing the current state of copyright law with respect to AI in the US. https://builtin.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-copyright To say that the law is unsettled is fair, but the US Copyright Office has a definite point of view, given existing law.

Re: JetBrains AI

#105

As someone who has been test driving this, I feel like this should just be value-add to the IDE. A reason for the subscription beyond DataGrip and Refactor tooling. It's decent for what it does but an extra $10/mo or $100/yr on top is a hard pill to swallow when VS Code is free and Copilot is $10/mo.

Is it at least as good as using Copilot in the Jetbrains IDE?

It's using the Copilot Chat API in the background -- if you check the Copilot Chat APIs there's even specific flags for Jetbrains IDE end-users, so this is essentially a whitelabel client for Copilot Chat.

THAT SAID, I've been using this for months and it's been performing extremely well.

Re: JetBrains AI

#106

Just like many others are saying here, and i hope JetBrains hears and sees the feedback- this should 100% be included in the all products pack. We are already paying for products we don’t use, incentivize us not to downgrade. An extra subscription on top of gpt-4 is rough. I’ve been a loyal customer for years and have convinced many others to switch and pay for your products. Now it’s going to effectively double in p…

What's so useful about cursor apart from inline prompts?

Re: JetBrains AI

#107
post #18
post #7

Pricing seems to be $10/mo or $100/yr. Personally I find that a bit steep when I'm already paying $100/yr for the Rider IDE (multi year concurrent discounted rate). Commercial pricing is $250/yr+ for just the IDE. I know that's about the same as Github Copilot, but the downside to Jetbrains is if I switch to another IDE to get AI features (ie VSCode), then I'll stop paying their IDE subscription as well. Edit: It als…

Its always better to use the integration that works best with your IDE. What’s wrong with switching? I feel like $10/mo is incredibly cheap for something that offers more utility than a coffee.

The thing is that every service on Earth is marketing itself as "it’s only $10/mo, the price of three coffees!!1!".

Re: JetBrains AI

#108
post #8

Kinda lame this isn't included in the "All Products Pack"

> Kinda lame this isn't included in the "All Products Pack" This is why the ownership model of software is so much better than some SASS offering. Modern SASS solutions are just about incrementally extorting more revenue from customers after locking them into a platform, as they’re driven to chase new “features”… And this is an IDE of all things…

> This is why the ownership model of software is so much better than some SASS offering. Modern SASS solutions are just about incrementally extorting more revenue from customers after locking them into a platform, as they’re driven to chase new “features”… And this is an IDE of all things…

JetBrain’s pricing is both SaaS and ownership: you can continue to pay to get upgrades, or you can stop after the first year and keep the IDE as-is.

Re: JetBrains AI

#109
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't that going to be extremely slow? I can only realistically run 7B 5-bit models on my RTX 3060, anything more and it offloads to the CPU. My responses go from almost-instantaneous to 3mins+.

This is where the Mac world shines.

would a 32gb M2 Max be able to run a 34b-model?

Re: JetBrains AI

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's in beta, it turned on for me yesterday.

How did you know it was turned on? I applied weeks ago and haven’t heard anything.

The chat window literally just went from “sign up for the waitlist” to fully functional. I think I got an email too.
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