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Firefox on the brink?

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Re: Firefox on the brink?

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Post by mroche »

jjoonathan wrote: post #49
nequo wrote: post #3

I want Firefox to not be on the brink. I have had no problems with it on Linux over the last few years since I switched from Chrome. I do not wish to touch Chrome with a ten-foot pole.

Google finally beat my hands with a stick firmly enough to get me off Firefox. It was youtube. Not the ads -- I pay for premium -- but the fact that on FF they added an artificial 5s page load delay on firefox plus a bug has lingered for months where it always loads the last video, so you have to load every video twice. 12s/video is too much delay. Ah well, it was good while it lasted.

Does this occur for you with an ad blocker active (like uBlock Origin)?

Re: Firefox on the brink?

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Post by dheera »

loganmarchione wrote: post #36

Mozilla also just posted their State of Mozilla 2022 (this includes financial statements). From what I've read, it seems that expenses are up and revenue from search deals is down. https://stateof.mozilla.org/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38530382 https://www.ghacks.net/2023/12/05/mozilla-earned-close-to-60... Firefox's market share has been on the decline since 2010. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market…

I feel like it's not that high for a CEO salary at a mature compnay. Staff-level engineers are routinely paid upwards of 1M these days (yay inflation). 6M for a CEO doesn't sound unreasonable.

If these numbers sound high ... $1M today was $500K in 1996.

Re: Firefox on the brink?

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Post by ravenstine »

unglaublich wrote: post #22
BossingAround wrote: post #10

With Google trying to cripple adblocker extensions, I hope users will find their way back to Firefox.

Google cripples adblocker extensions because users won't find their way back to alternative browsers anymore.

They know their average user in 2023 is not the type to be cognizant that they're even using a "web browser" when opening an app like Chrome. I think it's really up to geeks like we to install Firefox on our moms' computers and inform them on why they should try it. That's how I got my mom to try Firefox with ad blocking around 15 years ago; otherwise she either wouldn't have known about it or she might have thought ad blocking was something nefarious. We just can't act as if we build it then they will come.

Re: Firefox on the brink?

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Post by fifteen1506 »

tiahura wrote: post #34

I just wish they’d hire the guy that reversed engineered Grand Theft Auto to optimize the loading code to do something about the memory leaks.

I think Firefox no longer has memory leaks. I just which they'd follow Brave's BAT idea, or something along those lines.

Brave's BAT, while feeling kludgeful, is the only innovative idea in terms of funding sites nowadays.

Micropayments => dead Coil => dead (sorry, on a open stewardship) Flattr => unknown, guessing dead

So I want to block ads but I ain't depriving the websites of a way of earning money. If they want they can get my money -- but usually only that which was earned by wasting time to look at an ad.

Re: Firefox on the brink?

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Post by LegitShady »

loganmarchione wrote: post #36

Mozilla also just posted their State of Mozilla 2022 (this includes financial statements). From what I've read, it seems that expenses are up and revenue from search deals is down. https://stateof.mozilla.org/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38530382 https://www.ghacks.net/2023/12/05/mozilla-earned-close-to-60... Firefox's market share has been on the decline since 2010. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market…

damn I wish I'd get x7 increase in salary in 7 years. This guy must know where some bodies are buried.

Re: Firefox on the brink?

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Post by kemotep »

nequo wrote: post #19
tokai wrote: post #8

This article is like 6 years too late. The drop has happened, there's not really anything to base an "continuing free-fall" on. Even the articles own data show that Firefox usage has flatlined.

The article is specifically about US government guidelines for browser support.

But their chart shows Firefox reaching above 3% usage in the past 12 months. It’s pretty consistent in the past few years being above that government support cut off. And that’s really just support. If people follow web standards Firefox will continue work.

I mean it has been a steady decline but parent comment was suggesting that Firefox is probably near the floor of their market share.

Re: Firefox on the brink?

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Post by munk-a »

ekianjo wrote: post #73
munk-a wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's a pretty reasonable question when the salary is so incredibly out of line with what developers make. Is the CEO singlehandedly responsible for productivity equal to that of sixty or so developers?

Did I need to append a /s for people to get my comment?

Unfortunately yes - this view isn't so out there that it's not inconceivable that someone would genuinely express it.

Re: Firefox on the brink?

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Post by _dark_matter_ »

dheera wrote: post #103
loganmarchione wrote: post #36

Mozilla also just posted their State of Mozilla 2022 (this includes financial statements). From what I've read, it seems that expenses are up and revenue from search deals is down. https://stateof.mozilla.org/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38530382 https://www.ghacks.net/2023/12/05/mozilla-earned-close-to-60... Firefox's market share has been on the decline since 2010. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market…

I feel like it's not that high for a CEO salary at a mature compnay. Staff-level engineers are routinely paid upwards of 1M these days (yay inflation). 6M for a CEO doesn't sound unreasonable. If these numbers sound high ... $1M today was $500K in 1996.

Routinely??? I don't know of one staff level that gets paid that much

Re: Firefox on the brink?

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Post by HumblyTossed »

loganmarchione wrote: post #36

Mozilla also just posted their State of Mozilla 2022 (this includes financial statements). From what I've read, it seems that expenses are up and revenue from search deals is down. https://stateof.mozilla.org/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38530382 https://www.ghacks.net/2023/12/05/mozilla-earned-close-to-60... Firefox's market share has been on the decline since 2010. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market…

> Genuine question. What is justifying Mozilla Corporation CEO Mitchell Baker's salary?

Nothing, of course. Absolutely nothing.

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