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Re: State of Mozilla

#101

As usual, you see a lot of hate against Mozilla's management team on HN. It makes me wonder, the people who hold these views, do they begrudingly use firefox? Do they use a different browser?

At this point there’s really no other browser. There’s Chromium, and there’s Firefox. With manifest V3 being removed from Chromium, the non-Firefox alternatives might as well all be identical.

Re: State of Mozilla

#102
post #56

I dont like Brave because of the Crypto stuff. But they have way better communication around this with more simple tweets and posts of what they ACTUALLY do. What is even going on, on this page? So much coroprate speak I feel like I am reading my for-profit company intranet page.

You are right, the site is corporate gibberish. It links to one important thing, the 2022 financial statement, https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2022/mozilla-fdn-202... . According to a summary I read elsewhere it's actually good news: Almost the same total income while lowering the percentage that comes from google (a bit) and raising the percentage and total amount that comes from their own projects. Lots of…

> is there even one success story out there about moving a project like this back to a real not-for-profit/reasonable governance

Wasn't Thunderbird under Mozilla manglement initially? And, after a few rough years post-spinoff, they're doing pretty well it seems [0]. To the point I'm looking forward to their '23 financial report - I'm happy to continue to donate, and seeing the rise as others join in is pretty nice :)

[0] https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/05/thunderbird-is-thriving...

Re: State of Mozilla

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You are right, the site is corporate gibberish. It links to one important thing, the 2022 financial statement, https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2022/mozilla-fdn-202... . According to a summary I read elsewhere it's actually good news: Almost the same total income while lowering the percentage that comes from google (a bit) and raising the percentage and total amount that comes from their own projects. Lots of…

> is there even one success story out there about moving a project like this back to a real not-for-profit/reasonable governance Wasn't Thunderbird under Mozilla manglement initially? And, after a few rough years post-spinoff, they're doing pretty well it seems [0]. To the point I'm looking forward to their '23 financial report - I'm happy to continue to donate, and seeing the rise as others join in is pretty nice :)…

Oh, that's a close example I didn't think about at all. Maybe! Though I'm not sure what makes this subsidiary an inherently better structure?

Re: State of Mozilla

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> is there even one success story out there about moving a project like this back to a real not-for-profit/reasonable governance Wasn't Thunderbird under Mozilla manglement initially? And, after a few rough years post-spinoff, they're doing pretty well it seems [0]. To the point I'm looking forward to their '23 financial report - I'm happy to continue to donate, and seeing the rise as others join in is pretty nice :)…

Oh, that's a close example I didn't think about at all. Maybe! Though I'm not sure what makes this subsidiary an inherently better structure?

Arguably I shouldn't have thought of it at all - I hadn't realized it was still under a subsidiary. Perhaps it's worse than not being a proper example too - seems Firefox's best hope is to be completely ignored and told to fend for themselves (like Thunderbird), instead of having the Mozilla Foundation pay any attention to it whatsoever.

Re: State of Mozilla

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> It's good that Mozilla is still there to provide an alternative to the proprietary browsers and is fighting for open Internet standards > aggressive political stance These two statements are at odds with each other. Mozilla whole purpose is inherently political.

not at all. except in the sense that technology/products are political. Mozilla advocates a free and open internet. Providing a free and open browser is quite essential to that, and in fact any other effort is pretty much wasted if they can't deliver that.

I think that advocating for a free and open internet is political. Open source software is a radical political movement

Re: State of Mozilla

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post #75

Someone in the future needs to compare Mozilla development and Ladybird development.

And no SJW bullshit or "code of conduct" in the whole SerenityOS project either. So it's free of this bullshit politics. And such politics tends to attract parasites which take over the organization to promote their personal agendas - which is precisely what has happened to Mozilla.

By the way, I have left the community and found something else to do after the introduction of these codes of conduct in open source. Over and done with it.

Re: State of Mozilla

#107
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pixel 6a, firefox with ublock origin - no artifacts, no missing content I can find. Maybe its privacy badger?

Or maybe it could be screen size or Android version, since turning off privacy badger didn't change anything. I have an LG V60.

you have an extra 60 vertical pixels - I'm not sure it matters.

Re: State of Mozilla

#108
post #9

IMO Mozilla has turned into a wrong way since the shitshow with Brendan Eich.

Mozilla need to prioritise global user feedback more than their Twitter user feedback

Wasting capital on mozilla vpn, ui overhauling the browser to make it corporate appealing never were the problems.

Re: State of Mozilla

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Also laying off rank-and-file worker to save costs.

Also, purge technical CEO for political reasons then replace him with MBA trophy politically correct CEO that takes home four times the pay while laying off engineers.

The Mozilla board appointed Eich CEO. He resigned after proving unable to manage predictable grass roots opposition. And he refused Mozilla's offer to remain in another role.

Chris Beard didn't make 4x what Eich did. Mitchell Baker didn't replace Eich and doesn't have an MBA. What would make either of them a trophy CEO?

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