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Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

#101

Yeah, the craziest thing for me to come out of this was how everyone in HN just assumed he was "innocent". Poor poor sam altman, he's a victim. He comes across as a sleazebag to me.

Isn't he also the one wanting to scan everyone's eyeballs?

you mean how google scans everyone's fingerprints and apple scans everyone's faces?

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> mostly because of money/shares How do you know?

I don't obviously. But since those people were ready to jump ship to Microsoft, I am pretty sure they care more about their own careers than 'creating AGI that benefits humanity as a whole in the first place'

Didn't most sign the letter before they knew they had any offer to join Microsoft in any capacity?

Also maybe I'm just too risk averse but if I were concerned about money I wouldn't be putting my name on such a list. Although at some point past 50% it would feel pretty safe because what are they going to do, fire everyone?

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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post #86

Yeah, the craziest thing for me to come out of this was how everyone in HN just assumed he was "innocent". Poor poor sam altman, he's a victim. He comes across as a sleazebag to me.

But it's OK to assume he's a sleazebag?

If he pushes WorldCoin? Yes. No doubt.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

#104
post #23

I can't believe someone that created Worldcoin could not be trustworthy.

Worldcoin alone is so, so damning of his character. Cartoon villain shit. It's hard to square that whole thing with the way people talk about him here. But every once in a while it hits; this is the guy who wanted to collect everyone's bloody retina pattern, all for a crypto so obviously bad in nearly every fundamental aspect.

How so? A universal and tamper-proof ID system sounds like a good idea. In my country we have a pretty rock solid digital ID but the problem is that it's national, so the utility is limited.

I want to build global apps where I know every user is real and limited to one account but currently that's impossible. I don't know enough about Worldcoin to know if that's it though.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

#105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it hard to believe this was the kind of environment he was cultivating at OpenAI if 95% of the staff were ready to follow him out the door. I've worked for the type of people you mention and no one followed them when they leave. 95% threatening to leave in this case is hard to ignore.

OpenAI is more religion than company. Sam could be a deeply flawed leader and still have extreme loyalty due to what OpenAI has achieved under his leadership. The people at OpenAI are believers in a mission and that means they’re far more likely to allow personal failings to slide. He’s more a Musk figure than a whoever-the-ceo-of-McDonald’s-is figure.

do you have evidence to back this up?

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

#106

Yeah, the craziest thing for me to come out of this was how everyone in HN just assumed he was "innocent". Poor poor sam altman, he's a victim. He comes across as a sleazebag to me.

Your comment and sentiment is wildly inappropriate. You don't even bother to raise an accusation, just smear a person's character. We should all expect better from this forum.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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I've had the 'chance' to work with some deeply manipulative persons in the past, the kind who goes to your desk and say 'Hey, I noticed you started to speak to X again, and your performance seems to suffer as a result", where X is a friendly colleague that opposed some plan of that person. It is incredibly difficult to keep those people in check as all that behaviour is off the record and impossible to prove. When pe…

Worldcoin

You must be a sociopath to think that's a good idea.

> “Sam lives on the edge of what other people will accept,” said one of the people who had worked with him closely. “Sometimes he goes too far.”

Silicon Valley has a profound problem with (a lack of) morals and ethics.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

#108

Yeah, the craziest thing for me to come out of this was how everyone in HN just assumed he was "innocent". Poor poor sam altman, he's a victim. He comes across as a sleazebag to me.

He's a YC guy who made a lot of money in tech and this is a YC website full of people wishing they made a lot of money in tech.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

#109
post #23

I can't believe someone that created Worldcoin could not be trustworthy.

Worldcoin alone is so, so damning of his character. Cartoon villain shit. It's hard to square that whole thing with the way people talk about him here. But every once in a while it hits; this is the guy who wanted to collect everyone's bloody retina pattern, all for a crypto so obviously bad in nearly every fundamental aspect.

their long term project doesn't save or store retina patterns in any way. they store of a hash of it that is mathematically impossible to reverse. it's clear you wildly misunderstand how this works, i would encourage you to go learn more. i'd also welcome you to explain how the crypto side of it is bad in comparison to other uses of blockchains

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

#110
post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Worldcoin alone is so, so damning of his character. Cartoon villain shit. It's hard to square that whole thing with the way people talk about him here. But every once in a while it hits; this is the guy who wanted to collect everyone's bloody retina pattern, all for a crypto so obviously bad in nearly every fundamental aspect.

How so? A universal and tamper-proof ID system sounds like a good idea. In my country we have a pretty rock solid digital ID but the problem is that it's national, so the utility is limited. I want to build global apps where I know every user is real and limited to one account but currently that's impossible. I don't know enough about Worldcoin to know if that's it though.

that's exactly one of the biggest use cases for WC. the internet needs this and will need it 100x more in a few years
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