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Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Anyone else find it strange that startup founders of the magnitude of Sam & Greg would join a gigantic corporation as employees? It sounds very out of line of what you'd expect.

Sam had no stake in OpenAI. So, any potential deca billion value is hypothetical. He would have to do a U-turn and fight with the board to get his cut. Now he'll get his cut from MS. This AI division will have some further restructuring.

Edit: Sam is CEO of the new AI division.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe Sam thinks OpenAI will be so important he has a shot at CEO of Microsoft in a couple years?

But Satya is making a few 100 mil a year, tops. Sam could easily make himself a billionaire with one raise. And who wants to control all of Microsoft, that's a whole lot of headaches

And if governments squeeze on AI your start up is worth pennies over night. Earning 100 MILLION per year already removes any possible financial restrictions you had. Why do you need to have 10x that? Heck even earning "just" 10 millions per year will make all of your financial concerns go away.

Greed is hell of a thing

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What value does Sam bring now? They have all the money they could want. All the connections they’d need. Weird situation for him.

Agreed. Sam isn’t some AI visionary, he’s a startup guy. Unless he’s leading a team that’s going to spin out a new company, I don’t get it.

He was the face of OpenAI, MSFT is basically trying to signal: Business as usual, nothing to see here, move along and please don't tank our stock

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Did Microsoft just effectively acquire 100% of OpenAI without actually needing to cross the 49% regulatory hurdle? Depending on who follows them to MSFT, that might actually be the outcome here. And OpenAI is suddenly Xerox Parc.

>Did Microsoft just effectively acquire 100% of OpenAI

No, Ilya alone is like 75% of the brains and I'm fairly certain he's not going anywhere.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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We will see if OpenAI team can stand on its own legs. My bet is 70% they will start to humble and lose in long term. AI satety people may not those who know how to create a feasible business. At some point, Microsoft can make a purchase offer to get the remaining OpenAI.

We have seen similar stories with Nokia, Slack, others.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

#110

Presumably Sam and Greg now get to pick up where they left off and keep productizing GPT-4 since Microsoft has the IP and is hosting their own GPT-4 models on Azure, right? The more interesting thing is whether or not they'll be able to build and release something equivalent to GPT-5, using Microsoft's immense resources, before OpenAI is able to.

GPT-5 is almost certainly already done. But considering they sat on 4 for 8 months with Altman as head, who knows if it'll see the light of day.
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