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No one actually believes in that baloney, not enough to fire the CEO over anyway.
The money & startup people co-opted the scientific non-profit. Not vice versa.
I mean AGI
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> Usually they just vote their friends on You actually think that for-profit corporate boards are significantly different, especially in the startup/early IPO phase?
Sure, the investors own the company and the board answers to them. Nonprofits are significantly disconnected from their own financial incentives. I have witnessed it at every nonprofit I have worked for.
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#103This all seems so weird, and the list of Board members doesn't make this any easier to understand. Apart from the 3 insiders, there are 3 other board members. 2 of them seem complete no names and might not qualify for any important corporate board. In a for profit shareholders in theory control the board, in a non profit I am not even sure of who really has control over things.
Maybe non-profits are just frontends of some three letter agencies :)
Are we going to start speculating about insane conspiracy theories now?
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#104The screw is tightening. Britains largest newspaper has just called out ai companies on their intellectual property and content theft. The game is over boys. The only question is how to make these types of companies pay for the crimes committed.
The cat's out of the box for profit or not ... those who make living off of copyright will just have to deal with it as they dealt with Napster and all other innovations.
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I was at amzn when jeff formed the first board. No skin in the game, and no shareholders with any votes. I gather this is pretty typical.
But Jeff was the shareholder and those were his nominees right? Not to mention he was mostly able to pick the board as needed. In for profit corporation there is a clear ultimate ownership in shareholders. No such thing here.
The claim was that non-profits "just put their friends on the board". No difference.
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#106Edit: I called it https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1725682088639119857 nothing to do with dishonesty. That’s just the official reason. ———- I haven’t heard anyone commenting about this, but the two main figures here-consider: This MUST come down to a disagreement between Altman and Sutskever. Also interesting that Sutskever tweeted a month and a half ago https://twitter.com/ilyasut/status/1707752576077176907 Th…
the theory that Altman did something in bad faith means that it might not be a disagreement but it's something that forced Sutskever to vote against Sam
Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI
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Well, yeah, he wouldn't be allowed to participate in deliberation about his own removal.
wait...isn't "the decision" referred to in the parent comment about the removal of Altman?
He was renoved as Chairman at the same time (close enough that they were announced together, and presumably linked in cause, though possibly a separate vote) as Altman was removed as CEO.
Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI
#108Oh man. https://twitter.com/apples_jimmy/status/1725615804631392637?... Really wonder what this is all about. Edit: My bad for not expanding. Noone knows the identity of this "Jimmy Apples" but this is the latest in a series of correct leaks he's made for Open AI for months now. Suffice to say he's in the know somehow.
Lolwut? Who is Jimmy Apples?
Escaped AGI /s
Random? Twitter account who's leaked a few things at Open AI for months now.
Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI
#109This suggests that Greg Brockman wasn't in the board meeting that made the decision, and only "learned the news" that he was off the board the same way the rest of us did.
You've put "learned the news" in quote, but what Greg Brockman wrote was "based on today's news".
That could simply mean that he disagreed with the outcome and is expressing that disagreement by quitting.
EDIT: Derp. I was reading the note he wrote to OpenAI staff. The tweet itself says "After learning today's news" -- still ambiguous as to when and where he learned the news.