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Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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Hopefully the EU (or, in an alternate reality, the US) will eventually force Apple to finally implement RCS messages (or, less likely, open up iMessage).

iMessage already interoperates, though. An application is free to offer a non-interoperating protocol in addition to the interoperable one.

Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

#102
post #68

Hopefully the EU (or, in an alternate reality, the US) will eventually force Apple to finally implement RCS messages (or, less likely, open up iMessage).

You can just install Telegram and send messages on any platform including desktop. Why use telco-controlled, unencrypted RCS?

RCS has an E2EE mode

Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

#103

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You can just install Telegram and send messages on any platform including desktop. Why use telco-controlled, unencrypted RCS?

Because Google wants Apple to adopt RCS in order to prevent Android users in the United States from switching to iOS due to green/blue bubble social pressure.

I don't care what Google wants, I care about an open standard and ending vendor lockin. Did you think it was a problem when Microsoft refused to release MS Office for Apple as well, many years ago?

Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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Whatsapp and Signal can only use phone numbers, though? And Telegram requires a phone number (though you can also have a username).

Telegram needs a phone number register but then you can text people only by username. Both Signal and WhatsApp have announced usernames, Signal already has a beta version of the app with username support out.

Interesting, I didn't know that. The real question is, if someone adds me by username, will they still be able to see my phone number after that?

Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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Interestingly, the only ones talking about this comes from the Android / Google / regulatory side. Apple users are as far as I can tell happy the way it is.

I'm sure Apple users love the shitty images/videos they get when I text them :)

No, they don't. They just cut you out of their social circle. :)

Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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Why punish Apple for Google failing to create a good messaging service? Google failed to compete against iMessage in the US and failed to compete with Whatsapp worldwide. Now you want the government to step in to help Google make more money? Let the competition dictate it. No need for the government to get involved. Maybe Google can spend $50 billion to create and market an alternative to iMessage if they truly care…

I'm happy to hear about any other open standard that you think might be better. The key is interoperability.

What's broken about the current way messaging landscape is?

Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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You are extremely confused since you belive EU wants Google to make more profit.

No, I don't believe that. That's why I said it's a ridiculous idea.

You still don't get it. EU wants interoperable standards. Clear?

Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android

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post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Google wants Apple to adopt RCS in order to prevent Android users in the United States from switching to iOS due to green/blue bubble social pressure.

I don't care what Google wants, I care about an open standard and ending vendor lockin. Did you think it was a problem when Microsoft refused to release MS Office for Apple as well, many years ago?

No, I don't think it's a problem.

I use Google Docs exclusively. Sometimes I'll use Apple's built in document apps for local.

Microsoft probably makes more money having Office on Macs than not having it. Office software competition would have built up from Macs not having MS Office. And MS Office would have stronger competition than today.

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