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Rivian software update bricks infotainment system, fix not obvious

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Re: Rivian software update bricks infotainment system, fix not obvious

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Post by xyst »

cs702 wrote: post #13

It's easy to underestimate how hard and expensive it is to build, deploy, and remotely upgrade software that runs reliably on a fleet of diverse cars (different models, different years, slightly different components from batch to batch, etc.). It makes updating a mobile phone OS look trivial in comparison. So far, only Tesla seems to be able to update car software remotely, regularly and reliably. I'm certain it's ne…

Tech junk shouldn’t go in cars, period. Cars shouldn’t be as pervasive and prevalent in society (at least in USA). Yet here we are. Car manufacturers have spent an insane amount of money over decades to get to this point (buying legislators, forcing highway infra, subsidies, profit driven strategy over sustainability)

Re: Rivian software update bricks infotainment system, fix not obvious

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Post by wannacboatmovie »

dilyevsky wrote: post #38
martin8412 wrote: post #33

Stuff like this is why I don't want OTA updates in my cars. Let the car dealership deal with it during regular maintenance. They'll be on the hook for fixing it before handing the car back to me.

There is nearly zero regular maintenance to be done on EVs though. No oil, no belts, no fuel filter, spark plugs etc. Even the brakes will likely last entire lifetime of the car

EVs should be subject to mandatory German-style inspection by law to counteract this delusion.

Re: Rivian software update bricks infotainment system, fix not obvious

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Post by dilyevsky »

martin8412 wrote: post #88
dilyevsky wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is nearly zero regular maintenance to be done on EVs though. No oil, no belts, no fuel filter, spark plugs etc. Even the brakes will likely last entire lifetime of the car

Bullshit. BEVs eat through tires because they're heavy. The air cabin filter and pollen filter need frequent replacement. In the case of Tesla, you better check the undercarriage so you can potentially spot control arms soon to fail. The shield for the battery should be inspected.

You can’t rotate/change tires at local tire shop? It’s not under warranty anyway.

> The air cabin filter and pollen filter need frequent replacement

Yeah “regularly” like every two years lol, you gon wait for that long to update your software and pay $500 to a dealer to do it?

Re: Rivian software update bricks infotainment system, fix not obvious

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Post by worik »

cobalt wrote: post #93
phpisthebest wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well then we need to ask why is their infotainment systems so complex? and does it need to be? I want my infotainment systems go connect to Android Auto. That is is. Make it do that, and only that. This drive to make EV's as complex as possible is one of the reason i am not planning on buying one EV's are suppose to be SIMPLER than ICE. Make me a Simple Car with simple controls, and just replace the ICE with a batter…

android auto is just a different brand of infotainment system

And if it fails it is inconvenient

Re: Rivian software update bricks infotainment system, fix not obvious

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Post by bhauer »

xyst wrote: post #94

Tesla. Rivian. All cut from the same cloth. A car should be simple. Yet we are stuffing all of this tech junk into it and trying to repackage is as something else to pump the numbers. Car companies suck at tech. Let’s be realistic. They should stay their lane and focus on improving the car and physical aspects (safety, reducing carbon output, longevity, ease of repairability, reducing supply chain issues)

> Tesla. Rivian. All cut from the same cloth.

I'm not aware of any Tesla OTA updates bricking the infotainment system. At least since I've been paying attention. I don't see them quite as similar as you suggest.

Re: Rivian software update bricks infotainment system, fix not obvious

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Post by MisterTea »

Can I please just buy a car with a motor and battery? Why does every god damn vehicle have to come littered with screens and chips all together like some tentacle monster?

All I need is a gauge cluster screen that can display the normal info like stored and heading while also letting me configure the cars performance and safety features. Then let me mount a double DIN radio that isn't dog shit. I've not seen a single new car with these dumb screens with a sound system that's not tinny muddy garbage with zero adjustment save for "bass" and "treble" settings. I mean all that technology and you can't be assed to put an eq in there. HVAC never needed more than two or three knobs anyway.

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