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YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

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Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

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Post by PH95VuimJjqBqy »

rchaud wrote: post #82
PH95VuimJjqBqy wrote: post #3

I think many content creators have recognized that it's important to expand their brand outside of youtube so they're not so beholden to youtube. I wonder if this is opening cracks for competitors.

The biggest video site in the world, with the 3rd biggest cloud is admitting they can't make money with adblocking on. Most of the world is not even using adblockers, as they're on mobile apps where it's harder. Why would anyone want to enter this market?

I think a more reasonable conclusion is that they can no longer continue growing their revenue with ad-block enabled, not that they aren't profitable.

Remember, companies are about maximizing profit, not merely making a reasonable profit.

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

#102

Post by Workaccount2 »

vinyl7 wrote: post #84
thinkingtoilet wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To suggest YouTube doesn't have "useful" content seems objectively false. I think it should be considered the 8th wonder of the world. Need to see how to install a car seat? Need to fix a burner on your stove? Need to learn Hindi? Need to hear a live version of a Tom Waits song he only played once? Need to learn more about Philippine-American War? Need to learn what the difference between effect and affect is? My wif…

It's useless because there are thousands of idiots with a camera who record pointless clickbait videos to extract ad money. The signal-to-noise ratio is completely out of wack. There are are tons of 10+ minute videos about topics which say absolutely nothing. It's like college papers with a minimum page requirement where the student has to just fill the page with words which mean nothing. There very little actual val…

There are thousands of channels that put out top-tier content regularly. I am subbed to over 100 channels and always have a plethora of new stuff to watch.

If your interests don't extend beyond stupid click-bait content, I don't find it surprising to think that youtube is only full of stupid clickbait content.

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

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Post by rchaud »

vinyl7 wrote: post #84
thinkingtoilet wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To suggest YouTube doesn't have "useful" content seems objectively false. I think it should be considered the 8th wonder of the world. Need to see how to install a car seat? Need to fix a burner on your stove? Need to learn Hindi? Need to hear a live version of a Tom Waits song he only played once? Need to learn more about Philippine-American War? Need to learn what the difference between effect and affect is? My wif…

It's useless because there are thousands of idiots with a camera who record pointless clickbait videos to extract ad money. The signal-to-noise ratio is completely out of wack. There are are tons of 10+ minute videos about topics which say absolutely nothing. It's like college papers with a minimum page requirement where the student has to just fill the page with words which mean nothing. There very little actual val…

I shudder at the words "video essay" for this reason. Imagine the world's slowest PowerPoint with the worst voice over you've ever heard.

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

#104

Post by PH95VuimJjqBqy »

solardev wrote: post #21
jsnell wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not true. The revenue share has been stable at 55% to the creators / 45% to YouTube for more than a decade.

Youtube takes half their revenue?! That's crazy. Man, I thought the app store 30% was bad.

What cracks me up is that this is the obvious perspective, but not the one the poster you responded to ever considered.

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

#105

Post by adingus »

qntmfred wrote: post #36

I've been a paying YouTube user since 2016 when it was YouTube Red. YouTube is imo one of the best sites on the internet. Both in terms of content that I personally enjoy and improves my life, as well as its role on the internet overall, where they provide a FREE service that allows EVERYONE to upload as much video as they want, and see what kind of response it gets from a global audience, and even to get paid for th…

I totally agree. I think we're still in the golden age of YouTube and YouTube red w/ YouTube music is totally worth the $15 or whatever I pay every month. I have YouTube on in the background for hours and use it to look stuff up all the time. If you don't want to see ads, pay for the ad free service! Especially since it's cheap as shit compared to cable. It blows my mind that people expect these free services. I am totally pro paying a small amount for services I value (and I do) than only have a crappy free ad filled option. I pay for kagi, I pay for YouTube and I pay my favorite creators via patreon or whatever because I want them to be able to keep doing whatever they're doing.

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

#106

Post by eimrine »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #86
pprotas wrote: post #5

I wonder if anyone in the industry has any insights in how a regular developer can help improve ad blockers? Where to get started? As a huge fan of blocking ads, this makes me feel inspired to join the fight against Google. How can I help?

By far the most effective way to end ads would be to come up with an internet business model that doesn't need ads or subscriptions to stay alive. This would be a god tier level development, and would seriously cripple Google's core business (serving ads) and youtube as well (serve ads or subscription).

Blockchain?

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

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Post by Workaccount2 »

beej71 wrote: post #91
qntmfred wrote: post #36

I've been a paying YouTube user since 2016 when it was YouTube Red. YouTube is imo one of the best sites on the internet. Both in terms of content that I personally enjoy and improves my life, as well as its role on the internet overall, where they provide a FREE service that allows EVERYONE to upload as much video as they want, and see what kind of response it gets from a global audience, and even to get paid for th…

> YouTube is imo one of the best sites on the internet. This is true. > I am 100% happy to pay for YouTube. Just remember that you're giving money to the company that backs things like FLoC, Manifest v3, and WEI (recently in the news), things that threaten interoperability on the Internet. It's not friendly. If you pay them, do it with your eyes open.

Ironically, the reason Google has so much Orwellian power is because people are so much more willing to view ads than pay a subscription.

Youtube itself would be a far better product if it was subscription only. It would mean that the users, not the advertisers, are the customer to be catered too.

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

#109

Post by surgical_fire »

oneshtein wrote: post #24
pprotas wrote: post #5

I wonder if anyone in the industry has any insights in how a regular developer can help improve ad blockers? Where to get started? As a huge fan of blocking ads, this makes me feel inspired to join the fight against Google. How can I help?

Why you want to fight with service provider? What you expect to have in the end? Dead site?

Yes.

Re: YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

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Post by DharmaPolice »

meiraleal wrote: post #94
warabe wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's great! Thank you for keep supporting Youtube!

Support wikipedia. Youtube doesn't need support they have deep pockets making money selling ad space to scammers

It's not clear Wikipedia need your help at this point. Support the Internet Archive.
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